Just came on here to search for & give Kudos to any suggestions for this - the only thread I found was back in March when the feature was unknown & wasn't picked up - currently only available to o2 pay monthly , but this feature would go down a storm with GG users.
I have been testing it today & have to say (in agreement with a very good Android app review) that it does seem to work better on higher end phones (could not call on my SG mini, but on the SG note it works perfectly). This may be the thing that brought me back to GG after the data charging fiasco.
link to o2 page for those interested:
A couple of media links:
Vodafone users looking jealous!
Please can you seriously consider this one? This plus the improved £10 GB could make me consider trying GG again.
Considering that many people now have multiple devices and therefore need multiple SIM cards, I feel that the SIM activation pages are very unhelpful and need to be more user friendly and intuitive, thereby improving the member experience.
As it stands right now, a member with an existing SIM entering an activation code whilst logged/logging into their account is greeted by the SIM Replacement (SIM swap) page, with the very unhelpful statement:
"You cannot have two active SIMs. Activating a new SIM will deactivate your current SIM."
The member then has the option of continuing with a SIM swap, or backing out of the process. This results in members doing SIM swaps when they really wanted to change their number or register a second SIM, or backing out and not knowing where to go from here. This does nothing for the overall member experience, and causes members to become confused or frustrated by the whole process, and possibly them spending ages searching the knowledgebase or asking in the community.
I feel that this process could be much improved with a little modification to the current process flow, so that when an existing member enters the activation code from a new SIM they are presented with a series of option buttons or links, each taking or guiding them towards the correct path
|I want to:||Action|
|Move my number to a new SIM||Starts SIM swap procedure|
|Activate a replacement SIM||Explanation before starting SIM activation|
|Activate an extra SIM for another phone/device||Instructions to activate SIM on a new account|
|Change my number whilst keeping the same account||Instructions to change number via agents|
|Have an additional SIM on the same number||Explain this is not possible and give alternatives|
- Better overall member experience
- Reduction in erroneous SIM activations, therefore reduction in cancellation requests
- Reduction in Help & Support and agent questions relating to SIM activations
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My idea is to allow free giffgaff to giffgaff calls regardless of if you have topped up your phone with a credit card or if you have topped it up with pre existing credit or previous payback.
I currently purchase my goodybags from my existing credit which is from my payback. However i recently noticed that my free giffgaff to giffgaff has expired presumably because i havent topped up using my own money, even though i purchase a new goodybag with my credit every month . I beleive that this shouldnt happen and free giffgaff to giffgaff should be allowed regardless of what you top up your phone with..
This has put me off using the community and helpng others because my payback is almost irrelivant because the majority of my friends are on giffgaff and instead of receiving this potential unlimited contact with them in having to use up my goodybag allowences.
As many of us are excited as 4G is finally rolling out in the uk. Has it not occured to you that it could cost extra, much like EE are charging loads more for the service.
Well as giffgaff is know as the 'affordable' network I belive that it should be implemented free or at very very little extra cost.
The network 3 (THREE) are not charging user anymore so it would be just like connecting to 3g everyday. This is a massive selling point and my friend has moved to three due to this news, so to stop users from moving we shouls annoce that there would be no major price differance if any on the new 4G network.
Thanks, please support me with a kudo if you feel its a good idea (only if you want to, Im not asking you to, but feel free to do so)
So what do you think?
I think that people who are with giffgaff for extended periods, (e.g, 3+years) should start to see some discounts. For example, for each year you are with gg you will recieve 1% discount. I just think because you see people leaving in forums and it seems only the people that are helping are getting payback, when in fact some people are not technically gifted therefore have not got the capaabilities to help on the community, even though they value gg as much as the VIP's?
I propose a much cheaper gigabag with substantially less data than the current ones or potentialy similarly priced gigabags that last for much longer. Possibly 3 or 6 months. The idea is for them to be a solution for independent machine to machine devices.
There is this thing being talked about called the 'internet of things', it's proper name is machine to machine, or M2M for short and it's an IP based system for connecting things to the internet or networks. Currently and over the next year there'll be a lot of these things being made, soime by large companies and some by people in garages. This is a video from a current Kickstarter campaign from spark.io, some other companies such as GPS chipset manufacturer ublox have products out now too
Things like the Raspberry Pi and Arduino have really taken off in a big way and enabled many people to engage in home made electronics, both hardware and software. M2M is the next logical progression of that and is guaranteed to be a big deal but currently mobile data plan wise there's nothing for customers that don't have a dedicated financial team to organise enterprise contracts. The big three networks already have wholesale enterprise M2M solutions for large scale companies (and lots of info on M2M)
That is the background in a nutshell.
To be the first UK no contract MVNO to offer something for independent and small scale M2M makers and users. There is literally nothing like this currently on the UK market.
Why so little data?
Internet connected M2M devices don't use much data and nor do they necesarrily need a constant connection. They send bytes of data (tiny, tiny, tiny, tiny amounts), it'll just be something like a line of code or a geolocation, quite literally just a few bytes of data. There's no need for a gigabag with 500mb because approximately 499.9999.........mb would be left unused each month. A far smaller gigabag or one that lasts a helluva lot longer would tempt a lot of people...I say a lot but that's relative.
Is it right for giffgaff and why not use PAYG
PAYG is good but has odd pricing and isn't really for that. A product line that is geared specifically towards M"M and the internet of things is both enabling, simple to understand and sends a great brand message that giffgaff are a forward thinking company concerned with morte than mere mobile phones. It says 'this is the future and we want to get in on the ground floor'. (apologies if that sounds hyperbolic, I feel dirty having just written that).
I am by no means an expert in M2M, what the data needs are or what specifically would make an enticing plan but flexible data costs starting RIDICULOUSLY LOW and with as little maintenance as possible sounds good to me.
Honestly? Not gonna be a big seller or make a whole lot of money but it won't lose money. The amount of people doing this on a scale that would need an cheap MVNO are are going to be extremely low buit are only going to grow.
Getting in super early and offering something before there is even a demand for it. Brand wise it's a huge differentiator and opens up giffgaff to hardcore technical enthusiasts. And you can have a page on the website about the internet of things and how giffgaff are an MVNO with ambitions to facilitate that.
A dedicated giffgaff 4G ‘news and updates’ page, perhaps www.giffgaff.com/4g similar to www.tescomobile.com/4g and the other networks who have had, for several months, a page dedicated to the benefits of 4G and details of a likely timeframe. A way of registering for e-mail updates would also be fantastic.
There is huge interest in 4G from quite a significant number of users, myself included, who would like reliable updates on the giffgaff 4G situation, yet there is no recent official communication regarding 4G from giffgaff. Searching the giffgaff website for this information yields a lot of member opinion/speculation. A wider Google-search just yields an article from November 2012 featuring Gregg Baker’s (of giffgaff) comments, but this is very out of date, and again contains no specifics.
This leaves those of us wanting 4G ASAP in a state of limbo. Should we continue to wait for official communication on likely timeframes, or should we defect to one of the mainstream networks? An official giffgaff 4G news/updates page would at least give some certainty to the situation.
Goodybags are supposed to last from the day of purchase to midnight on the day of expiry. However, if you queue a goodybag, the queued bag can start any time between 10pm and midnight on the day of expiry, meaning you can lose up to 2hours of goodybag allowance, from both the expiring bag and the queued bag.
For example, if I have 30 minutes left in my current bag and make a call at 21.45 that lasts for 25 minutes, I would expect to have all 25 minutes to come from my current bag. Unfortunately, if my queued bag starts at 22.00 I will use 10 minutes from the new bag. This means I'm now effectively 10minutes down on my new bag.
My idea is simply to have queued goodybags start at midnight so you don't accidentally eat into next months allowances
Wassup 😜 When giffgaff first started they fell in line with O2 and automatically sent you the giffgaff data settings for free via over the air text message.
You could also text the word "settings" without quotes (") for free to 2020 which would send you the settings also.
Then within the last year that service was dropped and removed stating that most manufacturers were adding the giffgaff settings into their devices from new.
So now texting settings to 2020 returns:
We're really sorry but you need to change your settings manually. To find out how go to www.giff.ly/gg_started . Charges may apply if you visit via your mobile.
Well recently I managed to acquire some older GPRS enabled phones that used WAP (they had settings for both GPRS and Dial-up).
Tried to set up data on them without success as the data settings menus are complicated and hard to understand.
Then I inserted an old O2 sim card to the phones and O2 automatically sent me the data settings that worked.
I could also still text "settings" to 2020 without problems and received the settings.
However when trying 😣 to edit these settings it was still hard to do and didn't work.
So giffgaff should bring back the:
Text "settings" to 2020 service albeit for pre "smart" phone phones that connect via GPRS instead of 3/4G
This way giffgaff can attract more customers using older phones.
Examples of phones that use GPRS:
Sony Ericsson Walkman Range (W200, W300, W950)
Motorola Razor V3
A little known fact is that if you don't access your giffgaff voicemail for 60 days any customisation is lost (no pin, no personalised greeting etc) and you're not informed it has happened
If having gone to the trouble of setting these, to find if you did need to urgently check voicemail from another phone if would be very annoying to find you can't!
This is idea is very simple - once a PIN and/or a personalised greeting has been set - just leave it there without any time limits for it to be removed
I have all four family members on the same credit card with a recurring goody bag. My credit card number expiry date has changed. There is no facility to just update this part and the security number so you have to delete the card number and start again. However, giffgaff only allows you to put the same credit card into 2 accounts per 24 hours. Can you please update this to allow it to 4 accounts and also add a facility to just update the expiry date?
As there is bound to be a new iPhone in a years time(1) and in the future there may also be yet smaller SIMs than the coming nano SIM(2) or maybe something totally groundbreaking and new that networks need to know about(3), I think it may be time that giffgaff get's hold of Apple and requests to be updated about coming features of product releases before the product announcement so their customers are not to be left potentially for months without required items to use their device (like the nano SIMs(4) and instead can have what they need as soon as shipping happens.
I thought of this as the latest blog post(4) stated the following:
"since we do not have a direct relationship with Apple, we have been acting on assumptions and rumours like everyone else until yesterday"
Basically saying that Apple do not tell giffgaff about features which will be in the latest devices (probably because they don't sell iDevices). This is also occuring with other companies (not just mobile netorks) and they too do not find out about new features which could have a bad affect on their business (in giffgaff's case: lose of many customers, less people suggesting the network and looking bad to others not being upto speed with technology)
Now, I appreciate this may not be very easy to do as "giffgaff don't sell iPhones and Apple won't benefit so they don't bother to tell them etc..." or what ever the reason is but maybe giffgaff could come up with some other arrangment with Apple. Maybe one of the following just for example:
Agree with Apple on how many devices on the network are the latest version so Apple know that giffgaff will be helping them grow and it would be benefitial to tell them of latest features which could affect them
Agree with Apple that O2 can tell them as they are an MVNO
Pay a small fee to get info (maybe not the best but possibility as giffgaff would then be prepared)
giffgaff could sell the iPhone 5 and future versions as they are likely to sell and as I have been told, Apple only care about those who sell it so this could be easier etc, etc, there are dozens of things that potentially giffgaff could agree with Apple on so they benefit on information when it's announced to big companies, just like other networks and make sure that they keep it all secret.
Why do this?
As we know, giffgaff are going to take a couple of months to get the nano SIMs needed (evidently too late for the release of the iPhone 5) but if they got told in advance (say when the other networks found out) next time then maybe they would be ready with the necesary technology for these devices and save losing customers and not benefit from the millions of devices to be bought which could use giffgaff.
It's clear that this major phone release was missed by giffgaff (not having SIMs needed) but next year or the year after when the next breakthrough, network dependent, technology is brought to a phone giffgaff need to be ready (so they can benefit from keeping customers and gsining more!) and will know just like the other networks.
Also, after the release and people have chosen wheher to go to another network who provides nano SIMs, giffgaf could show stats of how much (or maybe little they lost (although would be pointless in that case)) they lost by being kept in the dark to Apple to help them maybe be recognised and be updated from them to save them next time!
EDIT: As some comments have mentioned, having a relationship with Apple could also lead to:
Having asigned giffgaff internet profile on iPhone
Possibly hot spot tethering
Possibly visual voicemail
having the name giffgaff at the top of the iPhone instead of O2 UK
voicemail button could work
Please support by clicking the gold star
(1),(2),(3),(4) within spoiler
(2)diddy SIM or picco SIM?
(3)injected SIMs or network run trackers/identities? (who knows with Apple!)
(4)read the latest blof post for information regarding nano SIMs taking a few months to come here: http://community.giffgaff.com/t5/Blog/giffgaff-nan
Great news that this is now an implemented part of giffgaff for all of us! Thank you for the continuous support and feedback on this idea, it has been great and overall has had a great end result!
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Hi, so many posts about this, not sure whether to add to one or make a new one? (ive now done both )
I put together a quick wix.com website to show what i think could be a possibility in terms of price and flexability.
What prices do other people think would work mutually for us and for the network.
Check it out, I personally would like to see slightly lower prices but dont want people to say. Can't be done! No potential profit. etc etc. I have aimed to get it around the price of things now with maybe a more scientific calulation worked out with a slider implemented by the giffgaff boffins
This could maybe be tested by a group of people to see how it unfolds. To go along side other offers and goodybags and for credit to kick as usual if you happen to run out of any allowances.
While perusing giffgaff's phone purchase pages today, I noticed that there is the potential for the prices being quoted misleading some people.
On the page that lists all phones (http://giffgaff.com/phones), and on the overview page for certain brands of phone (for example, the one for Apple's various iPhones), the prices quoted are the ones for the phones with the smallest data capacity. It's not until you click through to the details about the phone itself that you see that larger-capacity phones cost more.
For example the Apple iPhone 5s is currently quoted on the overview pages (linked to above) as being "£525" (this is likely to change depending on when you read this idea), but this only applies to the 16GB version. Only this page makes it clear that the 32GB version costs £606 (subject to change) and the 64GB version costs £681 (subject to change).
So I think where phones are being sold that have different varieties within them where price is affected, the overview pages should display a price preceded by the word "from" (i.e. "from £525" in my example above), so that they cannot be seen as potentially misleading.
EDIT (05/07/2014): A possible alternative to the use of the word "from" that would be even more transparent would be to display the range of prices the phone will cost, depending on which is chosen, so to continue with the same example, this might be: "£525 to £681". (Credit to @johncashman for this suggestion.)
I would like to add a note to balance amount shown, for example:
"If you believe this amount is not correct, then please dial *100# for confirmation"
I believe this would reduce the amount of customers that are confused as to why the credit has as far as they know gone.
As giffgaff once discovered, the iPhone holds the top three spots as the most used mobile phone on giffgaff. News in the last few months rumours about the next iPhone (bound to become high in the leader boards for giffgaff like its brothers) and it may possibly have a nano sim on board which is considerable smaller than an ordinary sim. The link below shows about the possibility of Apple using nano sims:
So, if Apple really do have nano sims coming to their device supposedly due for the Autumn and it sure to be a big hitter for giffgaff users giffgaff may need to take the risk and buy some in ready for the release.
Why do this you may say?
Well, nano sims are being made already and being bought by some European countries, shown in the below link:
Now your next question is going to be along the lines of "why can't you just cut them down like the micro sims were?", well it's not that simple. Nano sims are both smaller and thinners, this means they can't just be put in a cutter and cut down!
With nano sims a possibility for the next iPhone (bound to be as successful as its brothers) and non existent at GiffGaff yet, this could result in many hundreds if not thousands of lost members as they won't be able to use GiffGaff on their next iPhone. You may say "GiffGaff have just started doing microsims so they're not going to do nano ones anytime soon", that is true but when a large amount of members possibly leaving the network due to the possible sim change it is something which needs doing to keep members from leaving.
I know this idea been posted before HOWEVER this idea spelled out how to make it work.
You dial 43430
1 - For credit
2 - For goodybag
3 - For gigabag
Then you press:
1 - To pay by airtime credit (or redeem a voucher if just buying credit)
2 - To pay by a credit/debit card (only if you previously purchased the bag online)
Then you get asked to press:
1 - For "Yes I have a Blackberry"
2 - For "No I do not have a blackberry"
Then you press (option depends on which bag you are buying²):
1 - For "£5 Hokey Cokey"/"£5 gigabag"
2 - For "£7.50 goodybag"/"£7.50 gigabag"
3 - For "£10 goodybag"
4 - For "£12 goodybag"
5 - For "£15 goodybag"
6 - For "£18 goodybag"
Then if you are paying by card you are then asked to enter the 3 digit security code of the stored credit/debit card.
Bingo you then receive a text message confirming purchase of said bag.
² = If answered yes to owning a Blackberry then bags would be correct price for goodybag + BB add on.
My partner works for the police. He told me that phone companies charge for them to ping (locate) phones at various levels. As a result often phones as located within a 5 mile radius whereas if there was no charge then they could locate someone exactly where they are and potentially save lives!
It seems a very sad state of affairs that someone may be at risk or danger and a phone company is charging the police to find them and therefore limiting how they do this best. Surely the law should override this but it doesn't. It seems that money takes precedence over the safety of the public whether they be at risk themselves or a criminal is potentially putting them at risk.
I think it would be great for Giffgaff to be a forerunner in saying to the police yes we can help and we won't charge you, it would give the company even greater kudos than I think it already has.
Let me know your thoughts!