I propose a much cheaper gigabag with substantially less data than the current ones or potentialy similarly priced gigabags that last for much longer. Possibly 3 or 6 months. The idea is for them to be a solution for independent machine to machine devices.
There is this thing being talked about called the 'internet of things', it's proper name is machine to machine, or M2M for short and it's an IP based system for connecting things to the internet or networks. Currently and over the next year there'll be a lot of these things being made, soime by large companies and some by people in garages. This is a video from a current Kickstarter campaign from spark.io, some other companies such as GPS chipset manufacturer ublox have products out now too
Things like the Raspberry Pi and Arduino have really taken off in a big way and enabled many people to engage in home made electronics, both hardware and software. M2M is the next logical progression of that and is guaranteed to be a big deal but currently mobile data plan wise there's nothing for customers that don't have a dedicated financial team to organise enterprise contracts. The big three networks already have wholesale enterprise M2M solutions for large scale companies (and lots of info on M2M)
That is the background in a nutshell.
To be the first UK no contract MVNO to offer something for independent and small scale M2M makers and users. There is literally nothing like this currently on the UK market.
Why so little data?
Internet connected M2M devices don't use much data and nor do they necesarrily need a constant connection. They send bytes of data (tiny, tiny, tiny, tiny amounts), it'll just be something like a line of code or a geolocation, quite literally just a few bytes of data. There's no need for a gigabag with 500mb because approximately 499.9999.........mb would be left unused each month. A far smaller gigabag or one that lasts a helluva lot longer would tempt a lot of people...I say a lot but that's relative.
Is it right for giffgaff and why not use PAYG
PAYG is good but has odd pricing and isn't really for that. A product line that is geared specifically towards M"M and the internet of things is both enabling, simple to understand and sends a great brand message that giffgaff are a forward thinking company concerned with morte than mere mobile phones. It says 'this is the future and we want to get in on the ground floor'. (apologies if that sounds hyperbolic, I feel dirty having just written that).
I am by no means an expert in M2M, what the data needs are or what specifically would make an enticing plan but flexible data costs starting RIDICULOUSLY LOW and with as little maintenance as possible sounds good to me.
Honestly? Not gonna be a big seller or make a whole lot of money but it won't lose money. The amount of people doing this on a scale that would need an cheap MVNO are are going to be extremely low buit are only going to grow.
Getting in super early and offering something before there is even a demand for it. Brand wise it's a huge differentiator and opens up giffgaff to hardcore technical enthusiasts. And you can have a page on the website about the internet of things and how giffgaff are an MVNO with ambitions to facilitate that.
As someone who talks a lot more than I use the internet I would like to see the return of an unlimited minutes goodybag. Both o2 and EE offer 30 day rolling contracts with unlimited minutes and texts with 2Gb mobile data for around the £22 mark. This is tempting me to leave GiffGaff and bow down to these larger providers. This is the last thing that I want to do.
Anyone with me on this?
For people ordering new simcards to join Giffgaff, instead of being unsure whether your phone takes a standard, micro or nano sim, why not have a drop down menu where the person ordering their sim can select their phones model number and giffgaff automatically detects what simcard is required and sends that out to them so it saves possibly delays for the person joining - they might accidentally choose the wrong size sim thinking that they thought their phone accepted a particular size sim and saves waiting a few more extra days for the right one...
If you look at the goodybags there's 6 (3G) goodybags and 3 (4G) goodybags
So my idea is
There should be more gigabags avaliable. And change the price for gigabags and make it little bit cheaper so it fits in with the goodybags.
£5 - 1GB
£7.50 - 2GB
£15 - 6/10GB
My main point is that there's only 2 gigabags and 9 goodybags
So there should be more gigabags avaliable at a low price
Atleast add another 1/2
I think that people who are with giffgaff for extended periods, (e.g, 3+years) should start to see some discounts. For example, for each year you are with gg you will recieve 1% discount. I just think because you see people leaving in forums and it seems only the people that are helping are getting payback, when in fact some people are not technically gifted therefore have not got the capaabilities to help on the community, even though they value gg as much as the VIP's?
So for example, I'm on the £15 4G Goodybag which gives me 3GB of 4G data, which is really nice; the only problem with this is that i have 500 minutes and unlimited texts which I never use. In a month, I'll use at most 50 minutes and around 200 texts (I iMessage mostly) which means that quite a lot of that £15 is wasted. As you can probably guess, this Goodybags for me is only because of the large amount of fast internet it allows for.
Obviously it's okay for Giffgaff because they get more money, but it the sake of their customers, implementing something like this would be fantastic and perhaps being in a load of new customers.
At home I have to manage four (phone) SIM contracts and a data contract for an iPad. It's a PITA.
It would be so good to be able to buy a monthly Goodybag of minutes and data which could be shared amongst all the various devices.
One billing point. One "account" to administer.
I can see some work for giffgaff as I'd need to be able to see that my daughter singlehandedly has used up 75% of the available group talk minutes for a particular month (as a random example) but I'd hope that the benefit of having all that paying traffic would outweigh such a minor pain.
And if I had a group plan, all future tablets would be cellular enabled ones too.
Go on giffgaff. Group Goodybags. They make sense!
My idea is 1% of minutes is to be extended or payback in to next month period.
❓How about if you can get 1% back on your remaining minutes ( refund in minutes)
if you have 300 minutes left in your current goodybag then your 1% reward would for next minth will be" 3 MINUTES "
👍100 (left minutes ) =1minutes (next month reward)
Drop your own opinion and your ideas !
Feel free to kudos if this ides sounds good !
All the best
If there was a option where you can top up or buy goodybag/s using your PayPal account
I don't think it's a great idea (that's my opinion ) however it makes life easier for a lot of people
Do you think they should add an option where you can top up or buy goodybag/s using your PayPal?
If you still have the entitlement to the Offer goodybag with unlimited 3G data for £15, you have to buy the next one within 65 days of buying the previous one. (This gives you the chance to swap to a different goodybag for one month only, and it's advisable to queue the next Offer bag so you don't forget.)
My idea is for the expiry date to be displayed in the same way as the free giffgaff to giffgaff expiry date, on the Dashboard.
- To extend your free giffgaff to giffgaff calls and texts for another three months, top-up before 09 APR 2015
- To retain your entitlement to the £15 unlimited 3G data goodybag, buy it again before 21:00 on 14 MAR 2015
This line would only show if someone was logged in and still entitled - if they don't see it they will know they have already lost the entitlement. New members don't need to see this loyalty bonus that they can never earn.
I won't be able to test this if it gets implemented - I've never had that entitlement as I need the freedom to tether.
@will23 asked me to post this here, so please give it kudos if you would find it useful - maybe the number of kudos will show how many people still have the entitlement? (Or will the kudos come from those helpers who don't want to have to explain how the expiry date works...)
i think we should receive our voicemails free with or without credit as long as you have topped up in the last 3 months, there is nothing more frustrating than missing a call and you have used up all your mins, i think this could give giffgaff another edge again in the market.
Idea.. to remove the unlimited goodybags and replace with capped allowances.
If you agree please support the idea
Original idea posted here for discussion and after great support
After reading many posts on the subject of the unlimited goodybags do you think it may be time to just call it a day ?
Giffgaff seems to be fighting a losing battle with data chompers and have had to manage the data we have available for the members .
This has had the effect of slowing the available data to the members and after reading many many members complaints about very slow Internet speeds ( assuming it's giffgaffs traffic management) maybe we should just bite the bullet and have realistic capped allowance goodybags.
Yes I understand it's a thorny issue but surely it's better to have say the £10 1g / £12 3g bag and £15 5 gig bag etc with usable data as the new deal well it's just a patch up that won't fix the underlying issues and will come to a head again..
I think let's just remove the unlimited now and we can get on with a realistic capped data allowance that all users can use and not abuse
giffgaff is making an offer of 5GB for £15 which is £3 per GB.
This does not sit well where people are using unlimited at £15 and then consuming 15 GB for which they are only paying £1 per GB.
That makes giffgaff a two teir service as all the low users pay the price of £3 or £4 per GB and so subsidise the heavy users who are only paying £1 per GB.
This is a good reason to get rid of "unlimited" and redistribute the data previously used by the heavy downloaders to increase the capacity of the lower priced limited goodybags.
Pay for what you use is the only fair way to treat all giffgaf customers.
My worry is that we could lose giffgaff unless we have a realistic profit to product and losing the unlimited seems the best option to me
Currently while dialling *100*7# from your phone this message is displayed.
The picture above is from my iPhone
I would like the *100*7# short code message updated to show more relevant information.
As the short code is a request to the network would it not be possible to show the following within one message?
- The current active goodybag with remaining minutes.
- The current text allowance and/or remaining texts.
- The current data allowance and/or remaining data.
For example I get the 'Offer' £15 3G goodybag which I propose is re-worded to
- 'You've got 493 minutes left in the 'Offer' £15 3G goodybag, you have unlimited data and texts until 26/02/15, lovely jubbly'
The above message has a character count of approximately 117
If you dial *100*1# which is the expiry of free giffgaff to giffgaff calls short code then this message returns a character count of approx 152.
The USSD menu character limit is approximately 182.
I'd even be willing to see the 'lovely jubbly' comment removed to accommodate another 13 spaces.
Currently there is a short code for the remaining text balance on giffgaff which is *100*5#
With this in mind I would like to see a revised message of
- 'You've got 493 minutes left in the 'Offer' £15 3G goodybag until 26/02/15, lovely jubbly'
If the short code can't be edited in such a way, would it not be possible to create a new short code?
I'm also aware that it may not be viable to create a new short code for the remaining data balance.
This idea from October 2012 suggests that the creation of a new short code is very possible and it's status has been changed to Under Consideration.
If you like the idea or have suggestion on improvement then leave a message and I'll happily update my idea to reflect yours.
Hi, so many posts about this, not sure whether to add to one or make a new one? (ive now done both )
I put together a quick wix.com website to show what i think could be a possibility in terms of price and flexability.
What prices do other people think would work mutually for us and for the network.
Check it out, I personally would like to see slightly lower prices but dont want people to say. Can't be done! No potential profit. etc etc. I have aimed to get it around the price of things now with maybe a more scientific calulation worked out with a slider implemented by the giffgaff boffins
This could maybe be tested by a group of people to see how it unfolds. To go along side other offers and goodybags and for credit to kick as usual if you happen to run out of any allowances.
As I opted for the 4G trial goody bag I feel the 1 g allowance available to test the service is woefully inadequate .
We need around 4g to be able to fully test the service and then report back our finding to giffgaff.
If giffgaff carry on with only 1g trial bags the feedback will be not be a true test as members cannot fully use the service due to the limitations in data available and thus the feeback will be of little use to giffgaff.
I understand giffgaff may have set plans in mind for full rollout but to test the service with only 1g is impossibly hard ..as just doing speed test eats the data so if you agree please support this idea