What happens to the asylum seekers

contro

Boats they've been arriving in over last few days.

I wonder who owns them?

They look ok

standardbearer

What happens to asylum seekers.

Well as I understand it if accepted the Council have to house the new Citizens (stand to be corrected).

While we still have soldiers sleeping on the streets along with others.

k89bpa

They grow old and die like every other human being, (or they're sent back and perhaps just die).

contro

Hmmm, interesting but try reading again lol

standardbearer

No its the people living on the streets that die.

The forgotten people .

k89bpa

@contro wrote:

Hmmm, interesting but try reading again lol

The country they were born in officially "owns" them unless another country is willojg to accept "ownership" of them. We are all, legally, the "property" of the country on our passports, (typically of our birth and in some cases our parents/grandparents)

baconbutty

Probably auctioned off get yourself down their you could blag a bargain.

contro

@baconbutty wrote:

Probably auctioned off get yourself down their you could blag a bargain.

That was exactly my thoughts @baconbutty

They look new and cool too

matthewhill1996

Indeed

baconbutty

People smuggling is a crime so they'll probably go to proceeds of crime @contro but I've seen when they use dingys they just pop them.

andyslc

@standardbearer In terms of what they get they will be housed if needed but they won’t get a choice of where or type of housing. Could be flat, house, but more likely hostel, b&b. If they accept the offer of housing the get a prepayment card with £35.39 a week on it. If they refuse the offer of housing they get nowt. Soldiers being homeless on the street is not the fault of asylum seekers but government failings and a more complex set of problems and reasons than the argument of it being unfair because of asylum seekers portrays. At the beginning of 2018 it was estimated that 13,000 ex soldiers were homeless and almost all had PTSD. The lack of appropriate support rather than lack of housing is the main cause of homelessness amongst soldiers.

@contro As for the boats, more than likely stolen by criminal gangs running the routes. Generally nobody will be getting on these boats without paying the gangs. Anyone trying to take their own boat without going through the gangs risks a pretty nasty beating/death at the hands of the gangs. These crossings aren’t opportune in the main. It’s a criminal enterprise and it’s not always just run from the French side.

If they dont don’t make it across they will have lost any money paid to the gangs and go to the back of the queue until more money can be extorted. Gangs also run the lorry attempts at the Channel Tunnel and Calais. In some cases gangs will extort families in the country of origin for more cash.

The recent surge in crossing is extremely worrying for several reasons and successful crossings will only feed the situation. The problem is that the French don’t really have much of an incentive to stop them. The French Police will do what they can but with the ongoing social unrest and terrorist situation their resources are probably limited. That doesn’t help us much when they get within our waters, Troublesome and only a matter of time before people die (if they have not already by disapppearing under the bow of a tanker which wouldnt even notice)

majorincident

@contro: the vessels are barely seaworthy and is probably no more than kindling by the end of the journey.

@standardbearer: re-read the original post.

alecalexandrou

What happens to them?

As soon as they have been caught, they then are interviewed by UK Border officials.

Either before or after that they are given medical treatment if required and clean dry clothes if needed.

It is also possible that they will be fed with some food, this will probably be fish and chips or something similar from the most local place able to provide this food.

They will then be taken to immigration centres anywhere in the UK where they will be able to eat and drink at the expense of the UK until such time as the system makes a decision on their claims, which could take years.

If released into the community meanwhile they will be able to get a small amount of money each week for living expenses and their lodgings will be paid for.

This may not happen straight away.

In the meantime they will be able to receive treatment for any medical conditions.

If returned to their place of origin they will be flown there with several escorts depending on how the UK government has assessed them.

This can only happen if they accept this offer or if their asylum claim is refused, which will take several years.

alecalexandrou

The boats generally would have been stolen so attempts will be made to find the owners, as part of the investigations into the smuggling operations.

If they were bought then they most probably be destroyed eventually anyway.

andyslc

@contro the boats will more than likely be auctioned off unless he owner can be traced - more than possible given the boats are probably nicked anyway. They ll be seized and if no owner comes forward will be auctioned.

allan1954

all that distance to cover in the dark across the English channel no wonder most of them get lost.

andyslc

Spot on @alecalexandrou. To fork out for some of these boats you’d need to guarantee a return from several trips which is very unlikely.

These guys bought their boats. Didn’t end too well for them.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-44199790

Looking at the sort of boat these guys used it’s going to cost a fair bit £17k upwards (maybe cheaper depending on source and contacts, nudge nudge wink wink). At £6k a pop and the prospect of a few years inside you’re going to want to be sure of making at least 3 trips with the risk of being caught increasing every trip.

andyslc

Do you get life insurance with that @allan1954?

andyslc

@contro These guys do the auctions for HMRC so may do Border Force. They recently sold a light aircraft for £97k on behalf of HMRC. Is that a good price? (Assuming it’s airworthy of course)

http://www.johnpye.co.uk/case-studies/hm-revenue-and-customs-overview/

Which begs the question, if you want something cheap to smuggle in is it best to buy from the people supposed to stop smuggling?

bigdaddy0714

I’d turn them straight around and back to France they where there first or torpedos either way it would put others off.