@farnis wrote:
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So those who didn't vote wouldn't have all voted to stay. Its likely the 52:48 ratio of leave/remain would have been the outcome regardless.
Nonsense @farnis
All we know for certain about those who didn't vote was literally that they did not endorse the proposed change. We know this because they literally did not vote.
Perhaps they wanted to leave, perhaps they wanted to stay, perhaps they wanted something else, perhaps they simply didn't care.
Perhaps. Perhaps. Perhaps.
Attempts by both sides to claim to know how they would have voted are stupid and plain wrong, all we know is a change was prosposed, 17/46m said "Cool dude!", 16/46m said, "Aw hell no!", 13m said ".....".
That's not a theory. That is fact.
17/46m endorsed the proposed change. That is fact.
29/46m did not endorse the proposed change. That is a fact.
Petty tribalism, (again, both sides), does not change any of those facts. They are a matter of public record and they are undisputed. By simply ignoring them or by attempting to discredit me or my reputation in response to me quoting them people are demonstrating how utterly pathetic they are and how shallow their proclamations are, not to mention how little respect they have for themselves, let alone anyone else.
People should be more honest instead of trying to spin and deflect.
A change was proposed.
The majority of those asked to support and endorse the proposed change by voting in favour of it did not do so. Fact.
There is no subtext regarding the referendum or our relationship with the European Union, the subtext is actually about democracy in the United Kingdom and the lack of honest in our population as well as the lack of respect in our population.
Feel free to jump on the bandwagon of making claims about me in order to attempt to discredit me and what I say if you feel that's something you want to do, but remember, I'm on record multiple times as saying that I was "hard Brexit" as this is the pathway which will cause the most harm and suffering to the people of this country.
That is the truth. That is what I want to happen with all my heart. I've taken the necessary steps to protect myself from the majority of it, in fact, if it happens and goes as expected, I will do very nicely out of it. I only voted "remain" because it was obviously in the national interest and because I could not, in good conscience, deliberately inflict harm onto others.
So all those people saying that I'm trying to twist and spin for the "remain" cause are doing nothing by jumping on that bandwagon other than making themselves look like "prized pillocks" as my grandfather would say.
I'm not "campaigning" either way, people should make up their own minds, I don't wanna sway people one way or another. I just want people to start being **bleep**ing honest.
