What will happen with 5G on giffgaff?

dc_caton78

Afternoon all,

It’s the question on a lot of people’s lips at the moment. It seems like only yesterday that we were talking about the rollout of 4G, and now 5G is just around the corner.

You might have seen that O2 have been talking about their 5G rollout, starting in October. As giffgaff uses the O2 network, when we roll out our 5G capability, we’ll be able to take advantage of that 5G infrastructure.

As most of you know, giffgaff is a business that likes to test and experiment. With a new technology like this, it’s important that we implement it in a way that’s right for the members that will be using it, so our first forays into 5G will be on a trial basis.

Our engineers have been looking into how we can implement 5G in the best way, and we’ll be able to update as they progress. We are also keen on working with you on the 5G trial so if you’re interested in being part of an early trial group please let us know.

In the meantime, we’d love to hear your thoughts on 5G. Has the growing awareness we’ve seen over the past few months changed your views to what 5G can offer?

Thanks,
DC

richybhoy36

dc_caton78 Hi good info but as I purchased a new handset less than 3 months ago it's unlikely that I'll be buying a 5g handset anytime soon !
But it's good that 5g is on its way to giffgaff ! :-)

stephenpperry

dc_caton78 IM looking forward to more updates on this 😊

swizz1966

dc_caton78

doesn't make any difference to an old dude like me 4G does me but i will gladle have 5G the more the merrier cheers.

swizz

adzcrawford2003

dc_caton78 Hi, that’s a great idea. I was thinking that an unlimited data goodybag would be good ready for the 5G rollout so users can fully test the 5G capabilities during the trial without worrying about their data allowance, it would also be good for the 4G network as O2 have started offering it on sim only and other providers do like Three, EE, Vodafone, so giffgaff should follow the trend.

If anyone agrees with me, please Kudo me as it would mean a lot. Thanks. If you need any help at all with anything, just give me a shout and i’ll try my best with my mobile knowledge.

Cheers,

orangeman33

dc_caton78 I find 4G perfectly good enough. Bearing this in mind I don't see the point in 5G.

leshin

dc_caton78 It needs to be more widely available before I'll get a phone with 5g

radders1970

dc_caton78
i'd like to trial the new 5g

brightstar55

dc_caton78 do you have to pay 💰 extra for 5g

the_bookie

dc_caton78

5G is another great step forward
& smashing seeing giffgaff also
getting involved in this fantastic
advancement in technology to
make our mobile internet loads
better thanks .

vatesz73

dc_caton78 I'm happy to be part of trial already got note 10 plus 5g ... please update me any news about 5g giffgaff

Thanks,

teannejai

dc_caton78 I'd be happy to help with the trial for the 5G.

bill_john

dc_caton78

the_travellor1

dc_caton78

Exciting ❤️

steve_sharpe1

dc_caton78 Interesting but suspect 5g rollout will be exactly as when 4 g was introduced - at the start there will be premium prices charged for 5 g handsets and access to the 5g network. Then once it is fairly wide spread 5g will be the norm fo everything. I see Xiomi will be bring out its entire range as 5 g phones from early 2020 starting with the MI 10. It was the same when cds were introduced to replace tape decks and then in the early days of mp3 capability on car hi fi systems. Its the way of things: so I will let the early adopters pay for the privilege and follow on in 6 months at a reasonable price once it stops commanding a premium. It's all down to how impatient you are to have the next fastest toy and for what I use my phone for 4g is fast enough and already faster than my home broadband (we get a max of 15mps in our area)

wasym

dc_caton78 umm-humm..:🤔would it be possible to choose to stay with 4G instead 5G, as i am really concerned about 5G reputation in terms of health affection...

c_lockett

dc_caton78 Not too fussed about 5g at the moment. My phone is barely 10 months old. So I'm not looking to change my phone for a 5g compatable one for some time yet I should should say.

varun1234

dc_caton78 there's nothing wrong with 4g but yes u can't wait to try 5g but that does mean I'd have to get another which isn't likely after my dad only just replaced my other phone after it broke. But yes it's good for us as we're always in a rush

attic1964

dc_caton78 Yes I am really interested to try and use 5G . I have Samsung Note 10 5G. I am been very happy to join on early trying group. I am live in Leeds.

ungourin

dc_caton78 good info , but it will be a while before giffgaff has 5g

nikmobile

dc_caton78 don’t think my phone supports 5g so won’t be upgrading any time soon still paying for this phone 😂

egglassa

dc_caton78 can't wait for 5g

egglassa

dc_caton78 good to have 5g when it comes

djomanchester

dc_caton78 From what I can see 5G is primarily for business and a by product is consumer usage. Considering that to pick up a 5G signal you need a new phone and many more transmitters as range is less than 4G and ideally visual sight to the transmitter. hence council's renting out lamposts. So if you live outside the cities and off major transport routes you'll be waiting a long long time. Be nice if 4G rolled out properly. In Sale, south of Manchester for instance I can get download speeds up to 60gb in certain areas. That's good enough for me 😀 That's plenty good enough majority population.

noony83

dc_caton78 I'd be interested in the 5 G trial but I don't have a 5G phone is this something u provide for the trial or do I need to own one. Please let me know and consider me for the trial. Thanks 👍👍

jcoxy46

dc_caton78
I have heard that with the roll out of 5g, it will (or can) affect the 4g signals. Is this true? Also with our data allowances, how much more data is used on average through a 5g connection compared to 4g? EG: if 8gb of 4g data lasts me 1 month, if using 5g would I need double the data? Thanks for any help!

gaynorsmall

dc_caton78
I have 5G on my Samsung galaxy 10+ note and would be honoured to try out the new 5G. There are things on my phone that only work with 5G so I'm willing and able to test for you

kevin_1980

dc_caton78 thanks for the info, I'm interested in the 5g trial as the wife got me the Samsung Galaxy Note 10 plus 5g for xmas

pnahi60

dc_caton78 I've seen a lot of news about how bad 5G is for people's health especially with all the other 'smart' stuff with huge amounts of electromagnetic radiation. I'd be very happy if giffgaff took some time to research the alternative evidence and supported the InPower movement which has worked long and hard to raise the issues and want to give us authority to reject things that are potentially harming us. https://www.inpowermovement.com. This would be a real test of where giffgaff really stand - profit at any cost or transparency and empowerment.

clk55

dc_caton78 Considering the trumpeting and fuss over the roll-out of 3G and 4G that still doesn't meet the "generated expectations", I would say its all hype. Sorry!

alesz59

dc_caton78

jeffadex

dc_caton78
Hi,

I am interested in helping out with the trial of 5g network when it is available. My phone is 5g capable.

Thanks

artworks27

dc_caton78
I would definitely be interested in 5G trial if possible

decs234

dc_caton78 let me know if you need any help trialing the 5G i would love to help or do some testing i have a 5G S10 ready! Thanks!

julian_budd

dc_caton78 I would like to be involved in 5g trials for giffgaff

mintedgaffer

dc_caton78

yes please

stigbeater

dc_caton78 I think it'll be a while before 5g becomes the norm there's very few phones with 5g, and it seems to be the very top end new phones being released that have 5g. So may be a while before it becomes viable for smaller carrier's to push 5g.:

clydonian

dc_caton78 hi I would be interested in the 5g trial, I'm in Belfast and O2 5g is already rolled out, I'm eyeing the S20 ultra right now, pondering preordering it now, though wouldn't be much point if I can't use 5g right away, as far as I understand it I would not be able to use 4g in the interim while waiting for full giffgaff 5g rollout.

thelondoner

dc_caton78 as a payg customer, 4g is enough for my needs. Don't think I will be using 5g capability anytime soon! Think it will be a few years yet till 5g is the norm. If memory serves me correctly, it took ages for phone manufacturers to roll out 4g compatible handsets (so they overtook 3g ones)

sally2000

dc_caton78
It's good to hear that giffgaff are looking into 5g.
However, I am worried that my phone will not be able to facilitate the latter 🤔🤔
I am in no position, financially, to purchase a new phone right now.
I hope that I will still be able to access all that Giffgaffer and my fellow Giffgaffers offer when 5g takes off????🤔🤔🥴
Thank you for the update though...
I am sure I am not alone in this concern????

tashr1994

dc_caton78 Thanks for the heads up 👌

leomi95

dc_caton78
Hi I have concerns about 5g but I'm also very excited about what sort of things we can do with it. But I have herd it's dangerous and the radiation can be very harmful to unborn babies and children 🙁 is their any guidelines how to reduce the effects of radiation like are u able to turn off your data when not using it would this help or is their specialist cases with radiation protection

andrew1111111

dc_caton78 I'd like to be in the 5G trial please

m4cl7nchx

dc_caton78 thanks for that update

lowe248

dc_caton78 5g is not just a quicker internet it is used for other purposes, but it will be quick no doubt as it is a very penetrative frequency but they need to install antennas closer due to limitations on the range because the legal limit on power allowed to be used for transmission is quite low. Cities will benefit more than rural areas. There is also a faster 4g tho and to be honest 4g is more than adequate.

jag15

dc_caton78 how can I try out 5g,can I be a tester,thank you

compo1976

dc_caton78 I be up for 5g trials...

garyrandal

dc_caton78 i have a 5g phone and would like to help trial 5g please

meritez

dc_caton78

So first things first:

5G launches,
4G is backup for 5G, we get VoLTE because
3G gets turned off no more 3G voice or data
2G aka GSM/EDGE stays around for at least a decade to cover where 4G and 5G cannot reach.

Vodafone are turning off 3G soon, and they mast share with O2, giffgaff parent company, so I can not see one turning off 3g without the other as there would be no benefit.

3G turned off would allow more 4G bandwidth, and with all of that band 40 bandwidth O2 purchased in 2018, giffgaff will be one of the most reliable networks for coverage.

a6761

dc_caton78 i would be interested in the trial, i just got Samsung s20 ultra

silveroracle

dc_caton78
Not really interested unless I have a 5G mobile phone.
I use an iPhone SE and am not really looking to change it at the moment.
I also am hearing about possible radiation harm.
In the interests of Health & Safety, which you can not put a price on, I would rather wait until this type of network is safe for users.

shnajib

dc_caton78 Thanks for the information 😊

robclane

dc_caton78

My thoughts are ... I don't need, want or desire a rollout of 5G ... !!!

pedromac57

dc_caton78
I have heard some worrying things about 5G. For example I was told that the waves (short waves) could be dangerous for the brain.
I was also told that 5G is suited to surveillance of the public and was not originally developed for phones.
Am not sure how much truth there is in all of this. Could anyone enlighten me further?

kevinjamesbell

dc_caton78 Controlled information is available Instantly. So, how do we deliver that for profit garbage faster, and why?

balhoochie

dc_caton78
I would be interested in trialling 5g

raditotev

dc_caton78
I am interested

edgey38

dc_caton78 I have a s20 plus 5g and would be interested in trialing a 5g sim for giffgaff I live in Manchester and o2 have had 5g running here since the end of 2019.

angelfzpz

dc_caton78 fantastic thank you

tanya16590

dc_caton78 I'm not even sure what the difference between 4g and 5g is 😅

oracleoftruth

dc_caton78 I've recently got a OnePlus 8 so now I have a 5G phone and I'm in a 5G area so happy to be part of a trial.

keithwbarlow

dc_caton78 I have a shiny new OnePlus 8Pro and would be very keen to be part of any study you start when 5G begins to be available.

julian_budd

dc_caton78 just seen a concept video for iPhone 12 pro 5g due in September/Oct is giffgaff ready to roll out 5g sims?

posh1

dc_caton78 yes

teoborys

dc_caton78
I would love to be in 5G trials. I’m working in the delivery, and 5G would be a super help for me.
Thanks!

digit2

I’m an iPhone user and I don’t think Apple have any plans for 5g phones this year. Until there are phones available I’m not worried about 5g. I think o2 are only rolling out the 5g in London and a few other cities initially.

mjk43

digit2 still haven’t heard of 5g iPhone unless anyone knows differently.

alesz59

digit2

nerakb

Thanks for the update @dc_caton78

In all honesty,I'm happy with 4G and have only recently (in the last month) bought a new phone so won't be going out to purchase a new (5G compatible) phone.

charlixsparkles

I have heard little about 5G, but the gist of that is that only few devices on the market can use it and it's not that discernible from 4G. But if it really is the future, it's nice to be part of the beginning &#128578 as far as O2/giffgaff is concerned, anyway!

manureboots

charlixsparkles

I have only just bought a new phone too .:

brulaw

Thanks for the heads up / information , I think a lot of people who might be interested in being part of any ' trial group ' ( myself included ) would be put off by having to splash out on a 5G compatible phone ( not many around as yet and those that are are expensive ) , It would be great to see giffgaff offering competitive 5G rates and be setting the trend for others to follow ,

subasht

i'm interested in the 5G trial..however i don't own a 5G phone.. will giffgaff be providing devices for the people participating in the trial??

alexandraailine

subasht Same here. I would like to be part of the experiment but I am not going to by a new phone just for it.

luke198830

As Giffgaff runs on the o2 network will 5G come out the same time as o2 rollout 5G?

bornagain1

To be fair, 4g is not that great at the moment, so to me 5g is just pie in the sky. Once 4g is stable and available almost everywhere, I might then look at 5g, but I reckon its years away yet, before it's worth investing in a 5g capable mobile and what I would think would be more expensive data!

germansheppard234

. Sure many will buy 5g phones i would be happy if o2 got the 4g to work so bad i have to set phone to 3g Great that giffgaff r looking at it like a major player and prepared to go forward

steve88778

germansheppard234 I'm glad you don't bite.Ha ha.

formulaone

Nice one, to see O2/giffgaff will follow.I'm afraid it won't be me testing 5G for while, only just recently bought myself a new phone. So It'll be a while before I get to have a chance of 5G.I'm also happy with my current speeds of 4G. Ofcom should be looking to improve 2G/3G and even 4G (for those in areas that don't have it too well), before introducing 5G! &#128578

justin3017

formulaone I totally agree, the 4G network is patchy in places especially in areas near me too. I'm not interested in having a 5g compatible phone, would prefer to see better 4g service/network. Not that I am un happy with giffgaff, they provide a great service, its just the 02 network is patchy someplaces.

jaymailsays

5G details for giffgaff are a bit sketchy, whereas 3 network claim they "have more 5G spectrum than anyone else. We're the only UK mobile network to have 100MHZ of 5G spectrum in one big block." 3 say they are 5G Ready at no extra cost. Can we have a few more details on giffgaff's offer?

amand48383

jaymailsays
I have just left Three today for giffgaff, I can't even get 3G in many places with them so there is no point in them plugging 5G to me when we were miles behind with basic services.

lorann

jaymailsays good point actually

jokeyboi77

It'll be years before I see 5G in my area so need to worry about it just yet for me @dc_caton78.

sm_b

Still can't get 4G without going a mile away from home so I'm not that interested in 5G

ma2013

Can we have the same prices on the Goodybags for 5G this time? Just change the 4G to 5G and keep everything else the same please?

cadufo86

These are all the mobiles compatible with the 5G conexion

Samsung Galaxy Fold 5G

ZTE Axon 10 Pro 5G

Huawei Mate X

Xiaomi Mi Mix 3 5G

TCL Alcatel 7

Oppo Find X 5G

OnePlus 5G

Motorola Moto Mod 5G for Moto Z3

LG V50 ThinQ

Energizer Power Max P8100S

Nubia Mini 5G

roxy_r

Morning folks,

Great feedback and great questions! I will let @dc_caton78 answer all of that. It will be interesting to see how we balance all of it: coverage, phone capability and desire to move to 5G, especially when, like some of you have mentioned, not everyone is at the moment taking full advantage of 4G.

cloughey

Thanks for the info, however like most people nowadays having to upgrade your phone to be able to use it places it well down in the priority list (and most people are now holding on to phones longer). It is good that giffgaff are looking into it, but any suggestion that it may be structured or priced any differently than existing goody bags will put people off further.

ma2013

I'm definitely not going to upgrade to a 5G phone... Not until my current phone (Samsung Galaxy S8) dies. However, I do remember just before the launch of 4G...the 3G Goodybags suddenly had loads of data added to them.... Like the 4G ones will on 14th August. .

Pretty sure we'll have separate 5G (more expensive) Goodybags some time this year, like we did have separate 3G and 4G ones.

stephenpperry

Thanks for the info, I'm one of those people interested in the news. I won't be upgrading my phone any time soon though so it won't make that much difference to me. I'm hoping more networks take a stance like three and give 5G to everyone as standard. The EE model of charging (the way most networks did for 4G) was frankly terrible.

yvonnearmstrong

@dc_caton78

Nice informative post but I'm like other people quite happy with 4g and have no plans to buy a new phone

Cheers

Yvonne

peterkemp60

yvonnearmstrong I agree with you IAM not botherd a bout 5g I struggle to get 4g in my area