🤡 UPDATE 🤡 CWC 🤡 “Run By You” TAG

jesi23

@jesi23 We need a place for the CWC and Home-made threads

Because ALL stickied threads appear in ‘All Discussions’ many have been unstickied because there were too many to scroll down to get to ‘proper’ content.

My suggestion is for a place to put the threads which used to get ‘stickied’ in General Discussion. I would appreciate this for the Creative Writing Challenge (and the Comments thread), and maybe @kath72 would appreciate being able to have a thread for her creative ‘things to make’ in the same place?

Both contributions and reactions on the CWC (for Summer) stopped pretty well when the ‘sticky’ was removed after migration, but I am pretty sure the concept had support from those who have enjoyed contributing over the years.

🤡 Jes 🤡

harrrrrry

jesi23

I see from https://community.giffgaff.com/d/33020489-creative-writing-challenge-update that you've had to temporarily put the challenge on hold due to lack of participation since the new forum. That is I'm sure a very unintended result and I think @roxy_r should probably look into.

There is already a precedent -- forum games is itself a sub tag of GD used for keeping all the games together, so provided Creative Writing was created as a sub tag of GD it would make sense for each CW entry to be posted with the CW tag. Sub tags don't appear in the tag list until you select the parent tag, so they don't increase the length of the initial display at https://community.giffgaff.com/tags .

The only possible argument against it is that creative writing is not primarily a discussion, but the same applies even more so to games. So that's an argument for renaming GD to something more appropriate that encompasses other types of subject. But that's a bigger question which ought to be considered separately and should not fundamentally prevent creating a sub tag before discussing a better name.

Certainly, it seems to me that creating Creative Writing as a sub-tag of GD to classify the announcements and entries is the clear and obvious solution to this problem and I think should be implemented ASAP.

roxy_r

Interesting idea jesi23 and harrrrrry. Do we see this carry on as a permanent thing? I would love to make better use of the sub tag function of Flarum and this would be a great way of doing that.

We should probably get feedback from more members, but before that perhaps we can have a think of a name and of what type of threads would we want in that sub tag - not just what we have today but more around what are the characteristics of threads posted in that sub-tag. Any ideas?

ianmorland

Morning jesi23

As @roxy_r discussed here, I've now created a Run by you secondary tag within GD 🙂

I'll mark this thread now as resolved 🙂

Ian

polowoman

jesi23

Hi Jes, I have to admit that I am also quite lost on this new platform and have had no luck finding the CWC, apart from this thread, so hope the it is still running. If so, could you please let me know with an @ mention and I'll be able to find it from there. Many thanks. I also hope you are well and staying warm and dry. I shall try to keep in touch but the mysteries of the new format are still baffling me.

I also want to say hello to @kath72 and my other friends from the CWC. I shall be in touch soon but have had a hectic time of late and little free time. Meanwhile, hope you are well too. Take care, my friends.

i_am_sy

roxy_r

I think a RBY tag would probably be ideal, For anything run by members for members to participate in. I would probably suggest making so an educator has to add the tag though, so that it doesn't get filled with random threads, just the few at a time that fit the criteria 🙂

jesi23

roxy_r Do we see this carry on as a permanent thing?

Yes, I would think so. Possibly with a Run By You Creativity would cover CWChallenge; HomeMade threads; Run By You Self Improvement would cover the get fit challenges, gardening, entertainments

roxy_r Share your achievements thread be a part of this?

Actually, I’m not sure it couldn’t be a part of it as it is a way of recognising the achievements. As we don’t have the limitations of Lithium we could ‘set up’ a Share your achievements thread and then anything which fitted that category would have a natural home. One thread out of all the others? Why not?

i_am_sy Hmm...

"Challenges, Competitions, Creativity and Self-improvement threads for the participation and betterment of the community"

I like this although perhaps split it into two sub-tags creativity and self-improvement so people could choose to have one or the other hidden if not interested (like they can ‘hide’ the games sub-Tag)

I would anticipate expired threads being locked (like the previous CWC once the new One is active and topic ‘finished’) so they are accessible for reference but not added to, although could still receive reactions.

The main drawback to having to ask for a thread to be put into the TAG is that we are not able to ’flag’ our own posts (including OP of a discussion).

There might be a case for special permissions to start a particular thread in the tag. Or to set up a specific sub-tag for a specific purpose for one member to use? Hopefully not to be abused or resented.

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roxy_r

i_am_sy anything run by members for members to participate in

Love this phrasing! We would just need to be a bit more clear in what does that mean exactly. For example, would the Share your achievements thread be a part of this? I don't think it would but we need to explain why not, especially if we make it so that only Eds have access to adding threads - which by the way we need to check with @alex_w on 🙂

i_am_sy

roxy_r

Hmm...

"Challenges, Competitions, Creativity and Self-improvement threads for the participation and betterment of the community"

Or somthing..

Should be able to set up the tag that way I think, Announcements and Service updates can only be posted in by staff, but I'm sure you have the buttons to move members threads there if you wanted to, so would work the same way just with a sub-tag I think.

extreme_one

I reckon we need tags for the following:

Favourites - "What's your favourite ..."
Brexit - No explanation required
Religion - Another one with no explanation needed
Fantasy chat - Pretending to be in a place (pub/cafe/shed) and chatting

roxy_r

Thanks for all the suggestions folks! I think we should start small and have one subtag, maybe two to begin with. It would be a new thing for everyone so I believe the best way to make it work is to ease members into it.

I am tempted to start off with Run by you and have all the member run initiatives in there. We can see how that goes and then if needed we can start splitting them or creating new ones. Does that sound ok for a start? (we should probably also post this in Contribute to make sure everyone knows)

extreme_one , I think that sort of breakdown would come a bit later as it relates mostly to topics in GD.

jesi23

roxy_r
As there is a Halloween Creative Writing Competition going on right now, I would suggest waiting, and possibly starting off in November with a new Creative Writing Challenge, and asking @kath72 if she would like to start a home-made thread for Christmas under the new subTag if you decide to go ahead.

I would need two threads - one for Entries and one for Comments to keep them separate. 💐💐💐🤡

roxy_r

Oki then! It sounds like we are ready to see what the other members think of this.

I will hopefully have some time at the end of the week(: if I do take too long with this nudge me ) to pop something in contribute. If any of you want to take the lead and maybe post send me a PM 🙂

endorphin

ianmorland I've now created a Run by you secondary tag within GD

Sorry but I get "The page you requested could not be found. " and there's no sign of Run by You in the navigation menus or in the Tags view!?

roxy_r

Update: based on the last discussion we will rethink the name if the tag and pop it back out 🙂

ianmorland

endorphin

roxy_r Update: based on the last discussion we will rethink the name if the tag and pop it back out

@roxy_r requested it was pulled out temporarily 🙂

endorphin

ianmorland it certainly is a roller coaster ride this morning! 😮

ianmorland

endorphin we like to keep everyone on their toes! 😆

roxy_r

endorphin I failed to let Ian know yesterday about the twist with the name that I shared with you guys so I’ve asked him to hide it for now until we decide on a name