O2 PAYG restructuring happening tomorrow.

woodyuk

Tomorrow O2 are carrying out a complete overhaul of their PAYG service including dropping the classic 3,2,1,tariff and their international PAYG sims and they'll only be offering "new and improved" Big Bundles to PAYG customers.

Full details from MSE at the link below and if you have a look at the table showing the new Big Bundles (O2's version of goodybags) you'll see that giffgaff have got nothing to worry about from these changes.

https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/news/2019/11/o2-to-make-changes-to-pay-as-you-go-deals---here-s-what-you-need/

richybhoy36

woodyuk Hi the £5 bundle sounds good for people that don't use data and only use texts and calls would be great for them !

houndontheloose

woodyuk It'll be interesting to see how long the 321 tariff remains open to existing customers and also whether other providers, such as 3, make similar changes...

brulaw

woodyuk

Thanks for the info / link , I agree not much there to worry giffgaff ( thankfully )

pw6049

woodyuk thanks I know a lot on the 321 deals that's going to lose O2 some customers

isabel1066

woodyuk dropping the classic 3,2,1,tariff

That's bad news for o2

digit2

woodyuk thank you for that information, my sister in law uses the 3 2 1 tariffs and doesn’t use data. I’ll have a look for another deal for her (she’s in her 70s and not tech savvy)

williamwalker

woodyuk
I was literally just reading about that.
The question is will giffgaff follow.
I notice o2 £5.00 will bot include DATA
3 are now the only major network with 3-2-1

weelesleymc

not much kop is it.i think their 12 monthly sim only deals might be better.i am sure my friend pays £20 for 50gb
which is ok if you want to be tied for the year

woodyuk

richybhoy36 yes,I can see the appeal of that bundle to users who have non smart phones so only call and text but if you stack the rest of them up against giffgaff's goodybags they look very poor.

For instance,,O2 20GB + unlimited mins and texts for £30.00. giffgaff 40GB + unlimited mins and texts for £20.00. That makes giffgaff look remarkably good value don't you think?

woodyuk

pw6049 anyone who's currently on the 321 deal will be allowed to keep it but from today no new customers will be able to get it.What remains to be seen though is just how long O2 allow those customers to keep it.

davidevans0000

pw6049 thanks I know a lot on the 321 deals that's going to lose O2 some customers

Thats bad for new customers.

jaymailsays

woodyuk What remains to be seen though is just how long O2 allow those customers to keep it.

O2 have quite a good record on maintaining 'classic type' historic deals. It is quite clever in that a percentage are hostages to the paygo plans no longer available to newbies. I know O2 customers who got free calls to O2 Mobiles and standard landlines for adding credit, I think postcode calling was another promotion.

As far as I know 3, still offer 3,2,1 paygo plans with roaming advantages in 70 countries.
https://www.three.co.uk/Store/SIM/Pay_As_You_Go

harrrrrry

jaymailsays As far as I know 3, still offer 3,2,1 paygo plans with roaming advantages in 70 countries.
https://www.three.co.uk/Store/SIM/Pay_As_You_Go

The weird thing about three is that they give 200MB of data per month completely free at https://3g.co.uk/three-data-reward-sim. This makes it ideal as a backup, especially for those with a second or dual sim phone.

z201205

harrrrrry unfortunately 3 don't support 2g else I would consider it for an elderly relative that just needs calls. Shame that O2 are discontinuing their 321 classic: I was able to order a SIM before I knew about their changes. Hopefully they will honour it when the SIM arrives.

allan1954

harrrrrry The weird thing about three is that they give 200MB of data per month completely free at https://3g.co.uk/three-data-reward-sim. This makes it ideal as a backup,

3 only give this every month if you spend money with them otherwise it stops as ive tried it.

harrrrrry

I did put £5 of 3-2-1 credit on mine a couple of times when it was new and I was using it as a backup. But that was a long time ago. Most of that is still unused, but I'm still getting the 200MB per month:

And no, I've no idea who Sid is or what I should ask him if I ever manage to track him down.

peterhall0012

harrrrrry that's why you are getting the 200mb of data because you have an airtime balance.

williamwalker

harrrrrry
You will never find Sid people have been looking for him for decades.
If you do manage to talk to Sid, tell him he's too late for the British Gas flotation and he's lost out

kate1028

digit2 - I get the impression that customers already on the O2 3 2 1 Tariff, are able to stay on it. It's just not available to new customers, and current customers on another tariff, can't change to it. That's my interpretation anyway, so maybe your sister-in-law will be OK 😃

https://www.o2.co.uk/help/pay-as-you-go/classic-pay-as-you-go

harrrrrry

peterhall0012

It still seems odd that you can get 200MB of data free every month and keep it going (for 3+ years now) just by adding an initial credit (for which the minimum is £2) and keeping some of it unused.

But it's extremely useful as a backup sim in a dual sim phone.

endorphin

harrrrrry @allan1954 peterhall0012 I have had one of the Three data SIMs for a few years now which I have never topped up and I still get my 200MB of free data every month.

I use it a backup for those instances where I can't use giffgaff data or free wifi. You can order one directly from them here https://www.three.co.uk/free_sim_mbb/order

allan1954

endorphin so you are saying you got the data sim and activated it but never added any credit and for years you still get the 200mb per month for free.what happened to me was that i activated the sim got 200mb the following month constant emails from 3 wanting me to top up which i ignored they gave me another 200mb then the third month it never got added again.

endorphin

allan1954 so you are saying you got the data sim and activated it but never added any credit and for years you still get the 200mb per month for free.

Yes. I never have been pestered to add credit. Feeling a bit guilty I toss them the odd 0800 call now and again.