Who should be the next Labour Leader?

nefarius

Respect has to be earned so that's that dead!

jaymailsays

caro120 is corby def leaving then, has anyone asked him?

Yes & Yes! Sometime in the next few months. As soon as he chooses the next leader, one that will fail even worse than he did.

caro120

jaymailsays

love or hate him or somewhere in middle, he had the courage to stand and put up with flak which he knew was coming. Can't doubt his experience in the field. It would wear me out in minutes I think.

Right beddie time, nite nite, silly hours again🙂

nefarius

jaymailsays As soon as he chooses the next leader, one that will fail even worse than he did.

How do you know that if you don't know who it is yet? Sounds highly unlikely you'd know?

jaymailsays

caro120 he had the courage to stand and put up with flak

Well we all put up with flak, except unlike Corbyn we don't get paid £143,000+ pa plus Govt. car and driver, plus expenses.

Taxpayers have funded his staggering £3million wealth, while he supposedly feels so much sympathy for the lower paid, he wanted to abolish the marriage allowance and spend public money recklessly.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1206442/jeremy-corbyn-net-worth-salary-labour-party-election-tv-debate-itv

eileenusher

nefarius actually he's not far wrong, the loony left have a hold on the party thanks to Milliband who changed membership and voting rules which aloud momentum supporters to join and vote which got corbyn elected, they have since infilatred the National Executive committee and The Select Committee so there's no chance of a moderate being elected, it'll be who the loony left want which will be another left winger.

eileenusher

jaymailsays it's his salary as an mp, then his salary as party leader added on, I notice you don't mention the ridiculous amount we pay the Bufoon Boris yes he's just as much as a Bufoon as corbyn just in different ways, don't like either of them, neither should of got as far as they have in politics, Johnsons being put there by his far right supporters, Corbyns being put there by his loony left supporters (momentum)
Neither really represent the views of the average person, but I bet you corbyns more likely to know the price of a loaf of Bread than Boris he's a little more only a little tho more less silver spoon than Boris.

pw6049

jaymailsays and he is due a £1.6m pension when he retires per year

caro120

jaymailsays

3 million is probably nothing compared with what some of them (worldwide) own

property, businesses, shares and who knows

I think when somebody goes into public light and gets blamed they need insurance to protect themselves, they must always need security wherever they go and will never have a peaceful life. If they have a conscience they have to live with the decisions they've made. We affect a number of people as we travel through life but they impact on millions really just in this country alone. Could make or break lives. I couldn't do that.

I like my little world but then if at bottom of pecking order there are plenty above you that can harm. I don't know what the answer is - you either go into politics to try to make change in a fairly poor system, not just dealing with situations in this country but worldwide, it's a bit daunting.

Curious about additional expenses of ?64k, wonder what that covers? Don't forget the papers rely on sensationalism to make sales and reports can be skewed. How do we have access to a breakdown of that figure? Spose could always write to the papers to find out. Maybe train and get a job in the press to find out what really going on - but then there is still control about what printed.

Knowledge is a bit like pandoras box I reckon and don't forget what happened to Eve.

nefarius

JEREMY CORBYN and Boris Johnson will face each other, for the final time, during the election campaign tonight. Here’s how much the Leader, of the Opposition, earns but we won't mention Boris Johnson's. Lol! (I've put punctuation in it, so it makes sense)

eileenusher

formulaone really so he can change even more rules then resign and leave the party in the hands of the loony left, oh hang on he allready did that one.

jaymailsays

eileenusher
Can't disagree with you. I don't think Mayor Andy Burnham will be the next leader, perhaps the one after that in a year or two or more. However he is not eligible, as he is not a sitting MP.

The Tories would be scared of Burnham, less scared of Mayor
Sadiq Khan Mayor of London who will also be available before the next General Election in 2024, if a vacant seat crops up. Incidentally Labour will lose a third of its funding from central funds. Funding is based on how many MP,s your Party has. Therefore the huge fall will further diminish Labour's standing.

I'm hearing on the grapevine the Tories could put forward a motion of 'No Confidence' in the current Leader of the Opposition. If passed, Corbyn would lose the title and extra salary. He would remain an MP, just not on the Front Bench.

eileenusher Johnsons being put there by his far right supporters,

Not so!
Boris was elected by the whole Tory Party because he's a winner, twice as London Mayor (a Labour City) and now as PM, he has attracted Labour votes from Mining and Steel working families of many generations past.

Voters like him, that is why Boris got 45% share of the vote. Labour got 32.2% and the poorly led SNP got just 3.9% of the vote.

nefarius

eileenusher A left winger? So not a right winger then? In a left wing party?
There's no right left. There's left and centre left.
I prefer Green anyway so not bothered.

eileenusher

nefarius yes and no left wing politically but there's right left, middle ground and loony left the latter is corbyn and his nut jobs at momentum they need a middle grounder but won't get one because the loony left have taken over.

eileenusher

claudiodiviziaa oh dear god he's opposite of what Labour is actually meant to stand for.

claudiodiviziaa

eileenusher

eileenusher oh dear god he's opposite of what Labour is actually meant to stand for.

By watching the video that jaymailsays posted, it doesn't seem to me that he's the opposite of what Labour is meant to be. He's talking about taxing the rich a bit more and funding public services. Very Labour if you ask me.

But even if he was, even Johnson is the opposite of what workers in poorest areas of the country are supposed to vote for, yet he won.

By the way, I liked Corbyn's social programme, but there's no point in being left-wing if that means allowing Tories to win and force brexit and their right-wing policies on us.

Blair did better than Corbyn as far as getting votes is concerned. And - Iraq war apart - was a lot better than a Tories' government.

standardbearer

Jess Phillips is my choice and get rid of momentum ideals and bring back centre left or centre labour ideals for an opposition party.
Get the shadow home secretary and the shadow attorney general off the menu.

eileenusher

jaymailsays personally I think they should try and persuade Burnham to stand as an mp again then elect him as leader, He's middle of the road, well liked by Mps, most within the party and the electorate would like him also, A lot respect him for what he did in Merseyside over Hillsborough and how he help campaign and kept demanding answers in parliament another reason he's well liked, he's also well liked for how he's trying to get the best and improve Manchester as mayor and the North West also, he's electable and that's what they need, won't happen tho too sensible that option isn't it.

eileenusher

nefarius yes Labour is left wing, but within that left wing is right, middle, left of the left, Blair was too the right in fact some said so right he should of being a tory,
Then you have the middle people such as Andy Burnham, then left ie corbyn, skinner, Abbott

jaymailsays

Labour could choose as next leader, Lady Nugee, the multi- millionairess who has a portfolio of valuable properties to her name. Not heard of her? She doesn't currently use the Title, you might know her as

Emily Thornberry MP!

nefarius

She failed her 11 plus and went to a secondary modern.
She moved in with her Dad when she was 15. He suddenly left, without warning, when she was 17, to work for the United nations.
She worked as a barmaid whilst sitting her O and A levels.
What a gal!

standardbearer

Yuk
Loud mouthed lassie

monkey_for_sale

jaymailsays
And don't forget that the PLP (parliamentary Labour party) failed to support Corbyn (twice) - when he was elected leader and then subsequently challenged.
What will PMQs be like when Boris Johnson is taking potshots at Corbyn and his own MPs join in the laughter as they think of the good ans decent Labour MPs they've lost thanks to Corbyn & Momentum. People like Caroline Flint who've lost her seat. So sad to see her go .

standardbearer

Andy Burnham has already said he is happy not to be an mp anymore and likes his position now.
I don't blame him either.
jaymailsays
I liked Caroline Flint straight talking

monkey_for_sale

standardbearer
The self-styled King of Manchester has carved out a nice little niche for himself & with Boris looking to consolidate support from the former red wall consultancies, now Tory, Burnham's stock is set to rise as Johnson attempts to court moderates like him.