Who should be the next Labour Leader?

jaymailsays

Labour have a problem as most of the front runners are anti-Brexit.
Keir Starmer leads the pack at odds of 4/1.
https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/british-politics/next-labour-leader
But who would be your choice?

caro120

jaymailsays

is corby def leaving then, has anyone asked him?

baconbutty

jaymailsays Anti brexit ? I thought we'd be out by Jan the 31st 2020 or has that been put back 5 years ?

sarahaxon

jaymailsays That's a completely nutty list you've linked to. Some of the people named aren't even IN the Labour party. Luciana Berger???
Keir Starmer would be a good choice, as he's not an ideologue.

eileenusher

jaymailsays personally I think they should try and persuade Burnham to stand as an mp again then elect him as leader, He's middle of the road, well liked by Mps, most within the party and the electorate would like him also, A lot respect him for what he did in Merseyside over Hillsborough and how he help campaign and kept demanding answers in parliament another reason he's well liked, he's also well liked for how he's trying to get the best and improve Manchester as mayor and the North West also, he's electable and that's what they need, won't happen tho too sensible that option isn't it.

bazthebear2

jaymailsays Is the current one resigning.

revjonty

jaymailsays
It doesn't really matter does it?

Unless they are basically a Tory in Labour clothing, then the almighty British press will ensure that they are demonized. The great British public will lap it up and regurgitate it like good little surfs.

bissel

jaymailsays

Doesnt matter, Labour are dead in the water.

asimahj

jaymailsays labour have lost the plot bif style

andyslc

jaymailsays I don’t see being anti Brexit as a problem because we ve got a while to go before they have a shot at PM and we will be well on the road to leaving by then away.

With that in mind I think Yvette Cooper would be a good choice. She’s more to the centre and more than capable of standing up for herself. Maybe the New Labour brush she is tarred with might be used to beat her with but she seems like a strong character to me. It’s going to take a strong hand to sort the party out now.

williamwalker

jaymailsays
Donald Trump.
Looks like he may be available soon.

stephenpperry

jaymailsays I hope it’s someone dynamic

mij_sky

jaymailsays there's this old dude in islington ,,,, jeremy something ,, he might be good lol

jaseinspace

jaymailsays Luke Skywalker. J

thelondoner

jaymailsays jeremy corbyn!

alantony1

jaymailsays Morning to be honest it's got to be some one on the centre Corbyn was way to left for me also to me momentum are a problem in the Labour party that needs to be addressed. They say it's going to be some one who will caŕry on the so called Corbyn project. This was the first election in 35 years i didn't vote there just wasn't the right person from any party.Alan

janny27

jaymailsays
It needs to be a woman!

nefarius

Anti Brexit is good.

formulaone

Neither!

Bring back ...........

Ed Miliband! 🙂

jaymailsays

formulaone Bring back ...........

Ed Miliband

Only if they ban him from eating another bacon sandwich!

caro120

formulaone

my response to this still updating, was nick clegg trying to remember the name of was with cameron... hubs guessed vince cable, who is that??

eileenusher

formulaone really so he can change even more rules then resign and leave the party in the hands of the loony left, oh hang on he allready did that one.

pete2009

It doesn't really matter. They need to sort out the policies. They are a shambles and just false promises.

boblog

pete2009 Seeing as they failed to get elected we'll never know if they were false promises. Conservatives on the other hand, prepare to be disappointed by theirs...

thelondoner

jaymailsays whenever someone mentions ed miliband i see that image of him eating a bacon sandwich in my head! Me talky scarred for life! 😂

mancchester

Well anyone other than JC will be a good option, and give them a chance!

jaymailsays

caro120 is corby def leaving then, has anyone asked him?

Yes & Yes! Sometime in the next few months. As soon as he chooses the next leader, one that will fail even worse than he did.

claudiodiviziaa

Why is it a problem being anti-brexit?

1) He/she must be a remainer - unlike Corbyn - exactly because brexit is NOT done: we need to keep the PM under control during negotiations with the EU which will last many YEARS starting from end of January, in order to get the second best possible deal (i.e. close alignment with the EU, CU, CM, ...) now that the best possible deal (the one we already had as EU members) is gone;

2) He/she must be electable;

We could do with Keir Starmer on both accounts.

jaymailsays

claudiodiviziaa We could do with Keir Starmer on both accounts.

That would be Millionaire Sir Keir Starmer you support?

With around 200 Labour MP,s he/they have no influence on the Brexit Agenda, the Prime Minister alone, will decide, it may even be a no deal Brexit, if the EU do not treat him with respect.

Some of the people named aren't even IN the Labour party. Luciana Berger???

The ant-Semetic wing of the Labour Party hounded her out. She can return anytime she likes. The problem was/is Corbyn was/is a threat to her safety. He is a bigot who cohorts with known supporters of terrorism.

eileenusher

claudiodiviziaa oh dear god he's opposite of what Labour is actually meant to stand for.

busman1

i bet they vote in another left wing type again 😂 cos that worked well last time

nefarius

busman1 Labour is left wing 🤔

eileenusher

nefarius yes and no left wing politically but there's right left, middle ground and loony left the latter is corbyn and his nut jobs at momentum they need a middle grounder but won't get one because the loony left have taken over.

kenralph

nefarius
Well, just left of centre... Apart from the last bunch of idiots.

tonicurtis1967

claudiodiviziaa

eileenusher

eileenusher oh dear god he's opposite of what Labour is actually meant to stand for.

By watching the video that jaymailsays posted, it doesn't seem to me that he's the opposite of what Labour is meant to be. He's talking about taxing the rich a bit more and funding public services. Very Labour if you ask me.

But even if he was, even Johnson is the opposite of what workers in poorest areas of the country are supposed to vote for, yet he won.

By the way, I liked Corbyn's social programme, but there's no point in being left-wing if that means allowing Tories to win and force brexit and their right-wing policies on us.

Blair did better than Corbyn as far as getting votes is concerned. And - Iraq war apart - was a lot better than a Tories' government.

claudiodiviziaa

jaymailsays "With around 200 Labour MP,s he/they have no influence on the Brexit Agenda"

Only if one presumes that the Tories know what Brexit means.
Soon the real negotiations with the EU will start and Tories will divide into brino, soft brexit, hard brexit, no deal again.
And since Johnson is more interested in his own career than in any specific kind of brexit he may well need and accept the opposition's help in passing a soft brexit against the ERG.
Tories' candidates all over the political spectrum had to fake loyalty to Johnson for selection, but will soon emerge from their sleep.
Brexit is NOT done, it's just starting now.

nefarius

Respect has to be earned so that's that dead!

caro120

jaymailsays

love or hate him or somewhere in middle, he had the courage to stand and put up with flak which he knew was coming. Can't doubt his experience in the field. It would wear me out in minutes I think.

Right beddie time, nite nite, silly hours again🙂

nefarius

jaymailsays As soon as he chooses the next leader, one that will fail even worse than he did.

How do you know that if you don't know who it is yet? Sounds highly unlikely you'd know?

jaymailsays

caro120 he had the courage to stand and put up with flak

Well we all put up with flak, except unlike Corbyn we don't get paid £143,000+ pa plus Govt. car and driver, plus expenses.

Taxpayers have funded his staggering £3million wealth, while he supposedly feels so much sympathy for the lower paid, he wanted to abolish the marriage allowance and spend public money recklessly.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1206442/jeremy-corbyn-net-worth-salary-labour-party-election-tv-debate-itv

eileenusher

nefarius actually he's not far wrong, the loony left have a hold on the party thanks to Milliband who changed membership and voting rules which aloud momentum supporters to join and vote which got corbyn elected, they have since infilatred the National Executive committee and The Select Committee so there's no chance of a moderate being elected, it'll be who the loony left want which will be another left winger.