Sth Korea, Germany and Spain report second Wave after relaxation of Lockdowns

deltayankee3

So a Premier League side - Brighton - report 3 Senior Players have tested positive and have gone into Self Isolation

Dresden in Germany's second tier have 2 positive tests and the Bundesleague starts next weekend

Contrary to Spanish Government figures issued today, Spanish Authorities say there is an increase in positive tests which will result inevitably in a higher death toll

South Korea have reimposed restrictions after a sudden increase after their lockdown.

So the UK is going to relax now? I don't care what Boris announces - the writing is on the wall!

Discuss

pete2009

deltayankee3
It will be the same in the UK ( 2nd wave ) unfortunately.
Cheers

mrjeeves

deltayankee3

To be honest, I'm expecting a second wave.

The amount of deaths per day has decreased, but not much (1000/day to 600/day). With VE day basically ignoring social distancing, as well as people just becoming more and more tired of it, I think we can expect a second spike from those who are asymptomatic.

williamwalker

deltayankee3
This is going to be here for years, until the virus mutates and becomes harmless to human beings it could even mutate and become a lot worse.
However what do you think the answer is we can't keep business and everything locked down forever everybody will be going bust.
There is going to be extreme poverty like we've never seen it before even now.
As far as I can see it it's going to be die of poverty starvation or die of coronavirus

wedgington

deltayankee3 there will be no 2nd wave in the uk because we won't get rid of the 1st wave. Our curve isn't a curve you could pretty much stick a spirit level on it

weetinamc

deltayankee3 its going to be a while before i get a Spanish holiday according to the euroweekly news
https://www.euroweeklynews.com/2020/04/17/spains-costa-del-sol-and-costa-blanca-may-not-see-brit-holiday-makers-for-a-year-as-uk-have-been-told-to-prepare-for-up-to-six-waves-of-covid-19/

scrips49

deltayankee3 I get the impression that there is a relaxation of the lockdown happening already. Lots more traffic on the roads around me, people actually catching public transport that was always empty a few days ago. I think that the press speculation about what will happen is being taken as fact by quite a lot of the population. Sadly I expect a big spike in the figures over the coming weed. I hope I'm wrong.

stacydan2468-dupe

deltayankee3 yep likely to happen here too

jsmith2009

deltayankee3
Not surprised really. As more people go out the more likely it will spread.

farnis

deltayankee3

The end of June should have been the earliest to relax anything as the current lockdown was achieving its objective. Come July we will be back to where we were on March 23rd and another total lockdown.

dartgirl

deltayankee3 With You On This 👍️

123kingarthur

deltayankee3 I think it will happen here and even more times if we let it get out of hand
we need to be strong now

bluenose55

deltayankee3 Don't forget WUHAN After 35 Days Without any new cases, its BACK 6 New Cases ,

pmaine

deltayankee3 we could end up with that here eventually

garybo

deltayankee3 it could happen here

pw6049

deltayankee3 hope we don't get those waves

navi51

deltayankee3
The world needs a second wave and probably also a third.
The whole point of the lockdowns were to give the medical services time to increase their capacity to ventilate enough patients at any given time.
If as stated they may never find a good enough vaccine or treatment then there's nothing left but herd immunity, the original idea, so they may as well just get on with it don't you think ?

mazharsuhail

deltayankee3 needs to be looked into

rabbea

deltayankee3
I think we should all be ready for a second wave..people take it too lightly when the lockdowns ease😐

caro120

deltayankee3

crazy to suggest reopening schools!

we need to stick at this for rest of year

some businesses will close but it will all start up again when things have calmed down, maybe in few years time - unless get another virus or summat.

main thing is hang on to resources, don't waste money

i just hope this tracking device works and hasn't cost too much...

can't really see the point of it, better to just stay in and have a quiet life until things are safer?

you could be near someone and not pass it on or leave the bug on a hard surface and someone else picks it up hours later - I think the mobile thing and all the IT might be a bit pointless?

bit worried about the economy as paying out furlogh and extra benefits, businesses closing down, laura ashley, rolls royce etc. But it is worldwide so don't know if that mitigates it?

rich people will just have to pay some income tax etc into the system, won't hurt them!

eileenusher

deltayankee3 of course there'll be a second wave,
However those testing positive in Spain I would imagine will be from 2 yo 3 weeks ago before lockdown measures were relaxed like they are now, back then they were only aloud out for an hour exercise, shop, medical reasons.

South Korea is from the night club incident where one bloke who tested positive went into bars and a night club, however they did trace all contacts, and people in the club, that's why there r rate has gone up.

Germany to me starting football was madness, I'm surprised at Germany as they've handled it very well so far and had far fewer cases than most.
Football is a contact sport shouldn't be started up anywhere yet.

starbuck35

deltayankee3 well the first wave did not seem to affect nhs was not overwhelming for them the new hospitals were not used sadly they a lot passed away until a vaccine not sure how you stop wave after wave

thelondoner

deltayankee3 we went into the lockdown too late, are coming out too early, and people are still not being screened coming into the country. The government has been totally incompetent on this and a lot of people have unnecessarily died and because the lockdown is ending early, many more will die. It has just been a giant mess from start to present!

nerrin

williamwalker There is going to be extreme poverty like we've never seen it before even now.

The worst in our lifetime, probably the worst since the Depression. That terrifies me.

deltayankee3

wedgington I take it you mean vertically! LOL 😆

sarahaxon

I wouldn't worry too much. We have no idea how many people have it now. So even if we got a second wave we wouldn't know anyway.

deltayankee3

Nice link - I would agree with you.

My main point is that no matter what Boris announces, the evidence is that no relaxations would be good advice. Of course with some obvious exceptions and return to work for some industries. Providing they have suitable distancing - Garden Centres springs to mind!

I must admit I have seen absolutely no police presence where I live DY3 (Dudley) since the 7 week lockdown started and I mean absolutely none - not even a passing patrol car! Street Parties at the weekend were marginally compliant but young kids on bikes riding between those at the end of their drives doesn't install me with confidence

andath

Second wave!
Are we even over the first wave?

broxiebear

We are venturing in to the unknown just keep your fingers crossed its a weak wave👍

johnr94160

broxiebear Like mr spook it’s into the unknown we go , pity Kirk anit leading us 🏴‍☠️🧱🏴‍☠️

deltayankee3

Should have cleared the garage last week - I know I have a surf Board in there somewhere .... LOL

sherwood

In my opinion - Boris will act cautiously - monitoring the effect of any relaxation of the rules carefully.

deltayankee3

Well, the morning after the night before .......

Not much difference for most of us I suspect! That assumes everyone follows the rules.

johnr94160

nerrin After going to be a lot harder than now but people don’t seem to get that .Hunger will be the least of our worries.🏴‍☠️😂🏴‍☠️