Let’s hear your feedback - Charity Nominations 2020

dez_d

Hey there giffgaffers

We have now opened our Charity Nominations thread, and like last time, we’re going to be gathering your feedback in this thread too. Thank you to all of you who’ve given feedback in the thread from January, as well, we’ve been able to make some really positive changes as a result.

Right now we’re in the nominations phase, and we’d love to hear any feedback you have about how it’s run this time so that we can continue to make improvements. After nominations will be voting, and after our member survey, we’ll be changing how the Payback prize is awarded, to spread it across the top nominated charities. At the moment, the proposed split is:

1st place - 40%
2nd place - 30%
3rd place - 20%
4th place - 10%
5th place - 0%

We’d love to hear your thoughts on this and anything else as the nominations progress, and we’ll be updating on weekdays with the current totals so you can stay informed.
Thanks,

wagstaffes

dez_d is there any point listing a 5th place if they don't actually get anything?

ray2

dez_d I guess my answer to this is to make the best of what we have for this nomination period and hope that more will be brought to the forefront for decembers charity nomination process.

Is there any clarification on how the voting process will work this time round ? are there any changes we should know about?

(Edit to correct spelling and add if no money is going to the 5th charity can we please remove it and keep to 4 ? it looks a bit silly adding a 5th with no money to give them )

houndontheloose

dez_d I think it’s harsh not to give 5th place anything. If you want to make it a ‘competition’ I would go for:

5th 5%;
4th 10%;
3rd 15%;
2nd 20%;
1st 50%.

(Hopefully that adds up to 100%!😊)

However, if it were up to me, and given that all Charities will need money at the moment, I would go for an everyone’s a winner approach and just split the pot 5 ways, so 20% each.

figment_uk

dez_d

How about:
1st place - 40%
2nd place - 30%
3rd place - 15%
4th place - 10%
5th place - 5%

prisonbreakscylla

dez_d

5th position always seems to lose out, sad 🙁

I would say

1st place - 35%
2nd place - 25%
3rd place - 20%
4th place - 15%
5th place - 5%

endorphin

dez_d why not proportion the donation according to how many votes were received for each of the top 5 charities divided by the sum of the votes for the top 5 nominated?

So if the top nominated charity received 68% of the total top 5 votes they would get 68% of the donation, and so on for the remaining 4?

bornarichkid

dez_d

Last should get 5% and take off that 5% feom the 1st

ray2

dez_d This is not looking good when we havn't even got the basics right Dez,this should of been sorted out a while back to be fair,you need to make a decision and just go with it this time round.

timwilliams25

dez_d

giffgaff is all about mutual giving… Let’s give 5th place something too. This way all 5 charities that make it through will know they have something (but not how much). At these difficult times, let give all 5 charities some hope and certainty of funding.

I suggest

1st - 40%
2nd - 25%
3rd - 20%
4th - 10%
5th - 5%

georgecooksey24

dez_d 5th place 0% is not good enough why does the 1st place get nearly half

msmon55

dez_d I agree with members that feel 5th place charity should receive 5% of the fund. Its unfair and somewhat cruel to say "hey your charity came 5th but you get Jack!"

msmon55

dez_d has the date been set yet for when winning charities will be decided?

hdavey17

dez_d 5th place should get something surely. Just 5% maybe by reducing 2nd place to 25%

georgecooksey24

dez_d 5th place deserves more I’m afraid

ujo55

wagstaffes
Agreed, however 5 charities make it through to the final vote and 1 has to come 5th, just feels harsh!

claire1uk

wagstaffes
Totally agree with you. 👍🏼

neilj51258

wagstaffes I strongly agree

wagstaffes

ujo55 just seems a bit mean spirited to give one of them nothing. @dez_d suggest we give 5th place 5% and knock it off one of the top three.

ray2

dez_d Hi Dez, can we not as others have put offer something for the 5th charity or take it away rather than a congratulations you got through to the top 5 but sorry you don't get anything,as ujo55 said that is a bit harsh.

jaymailsays

ujo55 5 charities make it through to the final vote and 1 has to come 5th, just feels harsh!

Not sure why?

Was it harsh that 3 of 5 Charities last December, failed to receive anything?

This period the winning Charities have at least doubled to 4 or more.

And what if the 6th Charity misses out by 1 vote?

There are always winners and losers in this system but the losers all have the opportunity to win again 6 months later, whereas this time round the 4/5 winners will be excluded for at least the next 2 years.

As for percentages, here was part of @scousema 's 'takeaway' from January this year.

"A rewards option where the top 5 charities get a percentage of the total charity payback i.e. 1st charity receiving 40%, 2nd receiving 30%, 3rd 15%, 4th 10% and 5th 5%
Members are able to donate a part of their payback as opposed to the entire amount"

Which didn't mirror this threads OP which said:-

"At the moment, the proposed split is:

1st place - 40%
2nd place - 30%
3rd place - 20%
4th place - 10%
5th place - 0%

We’d love to hear your thoughts on this"

The option for donating part of your payback was removed.

dez_d

At the moment this is just a proposed split and it certainly isn't set in stone. We would love to hear your ideas on that.

katie84741

houndontheloose I like both of these splits

wagstaffes

endorphin good idea 👍️

ujo55

endorphin
Sounds a good way of distributing the pot to me.

dez_d

I've just been having a look through the replies and the consensus so far seems to splitting this to a 5th place. We just need to move forward to maybe working out what that fair split might be.

endorphin A great idea and it was one I had myself a few months back. I'm still trying to find the stat in the results but from what I know I don't think it was an idea the community wanted to go with. I'll update when I find it.

dez_d

Hi everyone,

Thank you all for your overwhelming responses and nominations so far. We are now on day 2 and we have some totals to share with you. We have just made an update to the nominations thread but we thought it would be a good idea to share it here also.

thedevilsdouble

dez_d

Indeed Marvellous..Maybe I can put some more towards women and children funds

kath72

dez_d Can I ask why the Laura Hyde foundation is not included in your pie chart tally as nominated by @claire1uk over in the thread

if the nomination is not valid then her post (according to the rules) should be soft deleted or removed ... currently we are in a situation where either her nomination has been missed by staff or it’s been discounted and we are left to speculate why .

claire1uk

kath72
Good point. Only just popped on to have a look how my nomination was being received.
😅🙄

I know they have to check the charity is legit etc. If it's not, I'd gladly remote it. 😀

Have to wait and see.

woodyuk

kath72 I think it's been discounted because it's not a registered charity so not eligible for nominations,at least I can't find any record of it being registered but as you say, ideally the nomination should have been removed and the member contacted to explain why.

kath72

claire1uk I know they have to check the charity is legit etc. If it's not, I'd gladly remote it. 😀

Yeah but if they are ‘investigating’ then it’s supposed to be soft deleted while they do so to prevent people being ‘named and shamed’ for incorrect nominations ... well hopefully Dez will sort it quickly

It sounds like a really good cause at this time (did you see the US doctor who committed suicide recently because of treating covid) . I have z number of medical friends who are finding this the toughest time of their careers

dez_d

Evening claire1uk
We reached out to you about this shortly after you made the reply yesterday. If you pop over to your private messages then you will see a PD from myself.

To get over to your messages then use this link - https://community.giffgaff.com/u/claire1uk/byobu