Who's to blame? Are we all to blame?

aaron1867

I know it’s very easy to blame the government, and I certainly think they deserve a lot of flak, but I have come to believe that the general public aren’t blameless either.

The government should’ve put us into lockdown much sooner. The biggest error of the lot.

The scientists should really be forcing government to listen to them more.

Businesses shouldn’t be opening without doing absolutely everything they can.

The general public aren’t limiting trips out, especially younger people.

Some of the general public seem reluctant to wear masks.

This surely is going to take us a long time to get out of without a vaccine. We must all, surely, start to take more notice to get our lives back on track.

deana1957

aaron1867 my thoughts exactly

mxrider66

aaron1867 it’s down to the population and no one else! I have been working everyday since this all began and probably been over cautious from the start. I am still very aware of making sure I am still social distancing from everyone apart from immediate family and colleagues that I have to interact with on a daily basis. Yes I want to go to the pub and see my mates brothers cousin at steves bbq but I don’t because that’s not going to help anyone is it! Stay smart and stay safe giffgaffers. Spread the love not the virus x

louisebirks

aaron1867 I have been following the rules. I have waited till I finished working at school to visit my mum. She has had noone in her house. I have had noone in my house. I haven’t been to any pubs, cafes, had no takeaways. But I can’t visit her because she lives in gr Manchester. We have stuck to the rules but it’s just not fair when others just take the micky.😢

basil1921

aaron1867 Wouldn’t it be wonderful to be religious, to believe in one of the many gods we’ve invented, and be able to blame him/her/it?

caro120

aaron1867

yeah blame all round but those at head should set an example and they don’t seem to!

at least God consistent, whether believe is theory or reality - a set code of behaviour and I think well thought out principles!

How can the scientists force the government, they get a lot of their funding from them?

Seems to be about 50% of people this way fairly anti masks or not organised

Don’t think things will be anything like normal for a long time cos got this virus and all the repercussions forever now unless things repair and reform… the impact on economics will be long-term

Hopefully some good things will come out of it though, we couldn’t carry on like we were, sad but true.

I think shops have really tried, some have put a lot of effort into taking action
Not sure how many businesses will keep going, wonder how consistent government subsidy has been - is it across the board or a case of some companies getting loads and others zilch?

Yep delays and denial, inefficiency the biggest flaws… nothing unusual there though, they only seem finger on the pulse when it affects them directly!

farnis

aaron1867

The government have done better than other idiotic political parties would have done, but I think they have made the mistake of giving people a false sense of security. The virus hasn’t gone away and it isn’t going to go away anytime soon. Tough times ahead folks 😞

janny27

aaron1867
To some extent I agree I feel the government have done their best at trying to protect both lives and livelihoods, no they haven’t got everything right. But seeing pictures of some of our beaches yesterday I find it really quite shocking that people are so complacent about this killer virus! Are these people going to feel responsible when the second wave hits us and find they are losing relatives and friends to it! No, they will blame the government! Its not just young people at fault, its all ages!

andishdi

You can blame whomever you like but the spread is a result of people not obeying the rules or following basic hygiene so it’s irrelevant what doctors, the government or scientists say if people ignore them.

basil1921

andishdi You can blame whomever you like but the spread is a result of people not obeying the rules…

Wouldn’t it be nice if it was that easy: someone to blame.

adelinadeleon

I wear my mask and my surgical gloves everywhere I go. I’m doing my part, everyone is on his own.

mxrider66

adelinadeleon I can’t stand gloves but will wash and sanitise hands every 20 minutes at work

deana1957

Not everyones to blame the government have a lot of blame put on them because of the delay in shutting the borders and perhaps they should off made lockdown sooner, the people that were flocking to beaches, the rioters & anyone not sticking to social distancing have a lot to do with the spikes but its not all the younger people flouting the rules, my husbands in the vulnerable group although from today he doesn’t have to shield & can go out but he still doesn’t feel its safe enough until there’s a vaccine, we can see from the spikes in manchester & the like the virus still very much around so everyone stay safe and keep to the rules

deana1957

mxrider66 your one one of the sensible ones, i think most giffgaffers are!!!

deana1957

Washing hands, sanitising, distancing & masks the most crucial things, surely we can all do this at least to keep it at bay

mxrider66

deana1957 well I’m glad to say at least some of us are trying

deana1957

mxrider66 yes but we have to really don’t we? wonder if it will ever go back to the normality we had had before all this, i think not!

mxrider66

deana1957 life as we knew it will never be the same

mxrider66

deana1957 as are you, thanks

linuxgiffgaff

I do everything I can to help, I have been going out so little it’s starting to affect me negatively (Even after things are opening up ) but I am making sacrifices and doing my best.

caro120

linuxgiffgaff

same here, we’re fairly careful.. not going out of house much at all despite hoping to this year.

it definitely gets to me now and then and hubs has got down from time to time about things.. he’s of that age he doesn’t want to get stressed out but the odd comment or shock at what going on.

I wonder what the cat makes of it, must have noticed less traffic for a while or difference in the air quality, less planes vibrating the sky. His food’s been coming in as usual, think that’s probably his main concern!

I worry about how it is affecting kids and teenagers though, if adults don’t know how to deal with things and if there’s an increase in domestic abuse then horrible for them if they witness it - even parents arguing about economics or job worries. And young people probably never been so aware of what going on in the world… maybe they turn a blind eye cos too much to deal with on top of everything else?

Think should be a lesson in family planning though if overpopulation has partly caused it, also lack of job security, harder to provide for a larger family.

If people just stuck to having 2 kids from now on we could reverse a lot of the problems as numbers slowly dropped?

caro120

basil1921

in old days they used to say God’s will, was a good philosophy to come to terms with dreadful things that happen and as you say to shift blame too!

then again I think the old saying of every cloud has a silver lining is true, bad things happen and sometimes good comes out of it? sometimes conversely, bad comes out of what was meant to be good too!

got to be very careful what wish for I think, maybe only a God will be aware of all the knock on effects of stuff and take that into account, it’s all too big for the human mind and there’s still a lot we don’t understand (or don’t acknowledge).

caro120

basil1921

it’s mostly come about because of numbers of human population - therefore blame is spread widely.

the earth will only support so many people, otherwise food and every resource gets short, we invade the spaces of wild animals, pick up new diseases and also spread stuff more cos more of us sharing the same air!

deana1957

mxrider66 i agree!!

caro120

mxrider66

even if it went back 100% to as we knew it there will still be the memory of this and it will happen again for sure, there will be other viruses. Hopefully governments and organisations will learn from it and be better prepared as far they can.

Certainly shows need for ring-fencing funding to deal with emergencies like this! or keeping a stash of in-date maks and ppe, money in hand for benefits when jobs go, highlights the need for more trained health workers and better conditions so they want to stay or come back to the job.

Then again don’t expect we got much money in the national piggy bank….