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Pausing the issue of Recycled Phone Numbers due to Social Media Links and Identifiers

Started by: frpc
On: 26/04/2017 | 19:14
Replies: 48
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by: taloupa
on: 03/05/2017 | 08:37

@frpc I never even realised that this sort of thing happened. Thanks for the information. 

Message 41 of 49
by: sim_1n_post2u_asap
on: 10/05/2017 | 07:48

gsklb04 wrote:

@frpc I also never knew about the old number recycle.

So let's see what response we get from gg.

@gsklb04 Time will tell

Message 42 of 49
by: sim_1n_post2u_asap
on: 10/05/2017 | 07:58

@frpc wrote

@sim_1n_post2u_asap Indeed but it would be better not to re-issue  numbers for a minimum period in excess of two years.

 

@frpc Agreed

 

 

Message 43 of 49
by: sim_1n_post2u_asap
on: 14/11/2017 | 13:52

I think it is related to ofcom insisting mobile numbers are recycled after a period of inactivity.

Message 44 of 49
by: allan1954
on: 14/11/2017 | 20:57
Recycled numbers
That's because if a PAYG phone number is not being used, the mobile operator can suspend the service and recycle the number. Mobile companies do this to ensure that the numbers they have are being used efficiently.

The length of time that a mobile provider deems a phone inactive varies by provider - for some it can be as little as 70 days, while others wait six months or longer. this from the Ofcom website dont know if its what giffgaff does.
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Message 45 of 49
by: harrrrrry
on: 15/11/2017 | 06:45

@allan1954

 

Giffgaff publishes its rules in section 13.3 of https://giffgaff.com/terms

 

Roughly speaking, a sim is considered out of use and deactivated if it has not made an outgoing call or text or used data for 6 months without buying a topup or goodybag.

 

Once deactivated, the sim remains out of service for a further 6 months before joining the recycling pool. A number will therefore not be issued to somebody else until it has been out of service (by giffgaff's definition) for a year.

 

It's theoretically possible therefore for the number to be reallocated 6 months after it last received an incoming call or text, though I seem to remember giffgaff saying that it continues to monitor for continued incoming calls after deactivation and will extend the reallocation time if it seems that calls are still being attempted to the number.

 

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Message 46 of 49
by: ste44444
on: 15/11/2017 | 07:27
Great thanks
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Message 47 of 49
by: clinteastwood43
on: 16/11/2017 | 00:10

Hey @frpc

 

Good morning ,

 

Thankyou that really is food for thought & is

a nightmare when certain recycled numbers 

cause good people a lot of problems .

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Message 48 of 49
by: frpc
on: 16/11/2017 | 01:06
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allan1954 wrote:

Recycled numbers
That's because if a PAYG phone number is not being used, the mobile operator can suspend the service and recycle the number. Mobile companies do this to ensure that the numbers they have are being used efficiently.

The length of time that a mobile provider deems a phone inactive varies by provider - for some it can be as little as 70 days, while others wait six months or longer. this from the Ofcom website dont know if its what giffgaff does.

@allan1954 giffgaff say this:

 

Our rights to bar or disconnect your SIM Card

13.3. Your SIM Card will be disconnected unless, at least once every six months, your Account is used to:

  • a) make at least one call, SMS or MMS to another number (not including calls to emergency services or Member Services);
  • b) make at least one connection to the Internet;
  • c) make at least one airtime credit or Bundle purchase

13.4. If your SIM Card is disconnected, you will lose any remaining credit or Bundle balance on your Account. giffgaff recycles numbers and we will not be able to reconnect once a number is disconnected and recycled. giffgaff may reconnect you if any disconnection was due to our negligence.

                             ---------------

 

However that is not the whole story.

When new sims are activated, members are allocated a mobile number which they may discard immediately or months/years later. Either by porting from another network or by choosing to change another number.

 

In these cases the number will be available for recycling exactly six months after disconnection. 



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