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What happens to the asylum seekers

Started by: contro
On: 30/12/2018 | 16:00
Replies: 34
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by: andyslc
on: 30/12/2018 | 17:10

@standardbearer In terms of what they get they will be housed if needed but they won’t get a choice of where or type of housing. Could be flat, house, but more likely hostel, b&b. If they accept the offer of housing the get a prepayment card with £35.39 a week on it. If they refuse the offer of housing they get nowt. Soldiers being homeless on the street is not the fault of asylum seekers but government failings and a more complex set of problems and reasons than the argument of it being unfair because of asylum seekers portrays. At the beginning of 2018 it was estimated that 13,000 ex soldiers were homeless and almost all had PTSD. The lack of appropriate support rather than lack of housing is the main cause of homelessness amongst soldiers. 

 

@contro As for the boats, more than likely stolen by criminal gangs running the routes. Generally nobody will be getting on these boats without paying the gangs. Anyone trying to take their own boat without going through the gangs risks a pretty nasty beating/death at the hands of the gangs. These crossings aren’t opportune in the main. It’s a criminal enterprise and it’s not always just run from the French side. 

 

If they dont don’t make it across they will have lost any money paid to the gangs and go to the back of the queue until more money can be extorted. Gangs also run the lorry attempts at the Channel Tunnel and Calais. In some cases gangs will extort families in the country of origin for more cash. 

 

The recent surge in crossing is extremely worrying for several reasons and successful crossings will only feed the situation. The problem is that the French don’t really have much of an incentive to stop them. The French Police will do what they can but with the ongoing social unrest and terrorist situation their resources are probably limited. That doesn’t help us much when they get within our waters, Troublesome and only a matter of time before people die (if they have not already by disapppearing under the bow of a tanker which wouldnt even notice)

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by: majorincident
on: 30/12/2018 | 17:19

@contro: the vessels are barely seaworthy and is probably no more than kindling by the end of the journey.

@standardbearer: re-read the original post.

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by: alecalexandrou
on: 30/12/2018 | 17:19
What happens to them?

As soon as they have been caught, they then are interviewed by UK Border officials.
Either before or after that they are given medical treatment if required and clean dry clothes if needed.
It is also possible that they will be fed with some food, this will probably be fish and chips or something similar from the most local place able to provide this food.

They will then be taken to immigration centres anywhere in the UK where they will be able to eat and drink at the expense of the UK until such time as the system makes a decision on their claims, which could take years.

If released into the community meanwhile they will be able to get a small amount of money each week for living expenses and their lodgings will be paid for.
This may not happen straight away.
In the meantime they will be able to receive treatment for any medical conditions.

If returned to their place of origin they will be flown there with several escorts depending on how the UK government has assessed them.
This can only happen if they accept this offer or if their asylum claim is refused, which will take several years.
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by: alecalexandrou
on: 30/12/2018 | 17:21
The boats generally would have been stolen so attempts will be made to find the owners, as part of the investigations into the smuggling operations.
If they were bought then they most probably be destroyed eventually anyway.
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by: andyslc
on: 30/12/2018 | 17:22

@baconbutty@contro the boats will more than likely be auctioned off unless he owner can be traced - more than possible given the boats are probably nicked anyway. They ll be seized and if no owner comes forward will be auctioned.

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by: allan1954
on: 30/12/2018 | 17:34 edited: 30/12/2018 | 18:56

all that distance to cover in the dark across the English channel no wonder most of them get lost.

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by: andyslc
on: 30/12/2018 | 17:34

Spot on @alecalexandrou. To fork out for some of these boats you’d need to guarantee a return from several trips which is very unlikely. 

 

These guys bought their boats. Didn’t end too well for them. 

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-44199790

 

Looking at the sort of boat these guys used it’s going to cost a fair bit £17k upwards (maybe cheaper depending on source and contacts, nudge nudge wink wink). At £6k a pop and the prospect of a few years inside you’re going to want to be sure of making at least 3 trips with the risk of being caught increasing every trip. 

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Message 17 of 35
by: andyslc
on: 30/12/2018 | 17:35

Do you get life insurance with that @allan1954?

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Message 18 of 35
by: andyslc
on: 30/12/2018 | 17:41

@contro These guys do the auctions for HMRC so may do Border Force. They recently sold a light aircraft for £97k on behalf of HMRC. Is that a good price? (Assuming it’s airworthy of course)

 

http://www.johnpye.co.uk/case-studies/hm-revenue-and-customs-overview/

 

Which begs the question, if you want something cheap to smuggle in is it best to buy from the people supposed to stop smuggling? 

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Message 19 of 35
by: bigdaddy0714
on: 30/12/2018 | 17:52
I’d turn them straight around and back to France they where there first 😁 or torpedos either way it would put others off.
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