We are leaving and we need to leave without a deal imo. If only so that we can straighten out our own politics without the more of Brexit/no Brexit hanging over us. I think we all need to stop and really look at where problems originate from for that to happen. Once we Leave it will very quickly become clear that, while it may not be the answer, the EU is not the cause of many of our problems.
Those advocating a disorderly brexit need to take responsibility for any economic damage they cause and any further austerity they make necessary.
Whilst it might be satisfying to punish the British people for their ignorance and their susceptibility to fake news and conspiracy theory, or even see it as an opportunity to educate them, the human cost could be very high indeed.
@sarahaxon I look at all the anger and hatred directed everywhere by all sides and have come to the opinion it’s not worth it. If it all goes Pete Tong those politicians that touted hard Brexit won’t need to take responsibility. The public will do it for them in 2022. If it starts looking good then I ll happily eat humble pie,
If only I could believe that was the case. We have had 40 + years of politicians blaming the EU for things that are Westminster decisions. I'm pretty sure that whatever happens nothing will stop them blaming the EU for another 40 years.
I know what you are saying about the anger and hatred - but I think that it Brexit fatigue talking. God knows I am fed up with the subject. I don't know which is worse: - the boring technicalities or the unsavory elements of Englishness that it brings out - xenophobia, exceptionalism, a refusal to engage with a wider point of view and the insidious myth of England 'standing alone'.
However, we need to stick with it. We have an absolute failure of political leadership at the moment, so we the public need to maintain whatever pressure we can to say that 'no deal' is not an option.
At this point I think what is needed is a one party state and a dictator installed with strict media controls to stop the rampant spread of propaganda.
The dictator then needs to totally reform the education system so that 20-40yrs from now, we can return to open and free elections, (still a single party state - party politics should be permanently banned from these shores), with an intelligent, literate and informed electorate, (proven by testing), and we can keep the media devoid of all the bull**bleep** propaganda.
And the penalities for anyone attempting to set up a political party or spread propaganda of any kind, (positive or negative), 10yrs first offence, 25yrs second offence, 50yrs third offence, no parole, solitary confinement, no contact at all with the outside world.
Once we have reached the stage where we are beginning to transition back to a place where we are educated, mature and responsible enough to have open and free elections, they must be fully representative AND we must draft a written constitution and teach that constitution in schools from the beginning of primary school onwards.